Submitted by hasbrochem in meta
A couple thoughts before getting into this shit.
One or more trans femmes asked me to post this rather than themselves.
Let that sink while reading this and before responding. Yeah, this is gonna be angry for my part, not theirs.
While I identify as queer, this is only recent as I had previously accepted the cis-het labels given me and being a white male, there’s all kinds of fucking privilege I enjoy that aren’t currently available to those who belong to marginalized and neglected groups whether here or elsewhere. This place is supposed to be a refuge and it is for some. Not for others. That much has been made clear. Bandaids may cover a wound but they don’t solve the issue. Simply yelling back at the neglected community members that started yelling in the first place because they weren’t fucking being listened to from the beginning might make one feel better, but it does nothing to show that we actually care about them and their well being.
All right, enough preaching.
People asked for concrete suggestions (as if they had never been given before), so you have a non-trans person laying them out fucking once again in the hopes that my voice will be heard where theirs has been ignored. Again, let that sink in. This is supposed to be a radical space. This isn’t radical. This is regressive. I know, I said enough preaching…
two of these are from the last shit storm of a post
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less leniency with users like /u/mouse* and /u/mao* expending fewer warnings before banning those fuckers, temp bans when they start showing troubling behavior, considered as skirting the ToS as well as outright breaking it
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action against f/shoplifting, preferably removing the forum and migrating what’s useful, such as the guides to f/illegalism, the common goal of trying to achieve an environment where radical ideas can flourish is more important than giving home to people who inadvertently work against capitalist interests (cf. Fascism which was initially anti-capitalist in nature); f/shoplifting is not only not helpful to this but actively works against it thus hindering this goal for a radical site such as raddle
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stop telling members of marginalized and neglected groups here, particularly our trans and queer comrades, that they need to be nicer/gentler/more understanding when responding to bigotry
this isn't everything, but we have to start somewhere and we'll work on taking baby steps to see if something can be done.
All you have to do is fucking look at comments from our various trans community members to see further suggestions and long elaborate explanations of the goddamn fucking problem. I’m not going to name them because they don’t need further harassment from those fuckholes that are here.
If this doesn’t change, I’m gone. Contrary to what TW said, this is not the only place we have. That’s bullshit cults use to scare their members into staying and will never get anything but an angry response from me (regardless of if this was their intent or not). All that I’ve seen this last little while is that even in a rad left/post-left space, trans comrades still have to stand and fucking fight alone for the things that really matter the most. Namely to exist without being harassed, molested, harangued, bullied and out numbered even though they're supposedly surrounded by friends and comrades.
this isn't petty fucking infighting. this isn't unrepresentative of anarchists and post-left spaces either. so don't you fucking dare try and dismiss this as nothing more than a distraction. that's a mighty big position of privilege if one honestly thinks so.
Respond angrily or throw a tantrum in response to this and you’ll only show that the above paragraphs are true. I’m not here to debate. I’m a fucking non-trans person having to fucking say what the trans community has already BEEN FUCKING YELLING and no one has been fucking listening.
This rad space is not so rad, in both senses of the word, right now.
Afterthought: by driving away the trans/queer community so the f/shoplifting shit hole can thrive is doing exactly what titan and those other fuck faces want and are hoping for. Keep that in mind when you stick your neck out for them and justify them continuing to occupy a supposedly radical space sans the trans femmes, queers and others who have left and are leaving.
there's more and this doesn't encompass all of the trans community here. one or more of them asked me to write this up and post it because they feel I'm more respected in this community than they are. this is fucking bullshit.
Also, ziq, since you bowed out of whether to ban the trans maoist that violated the ToS here recently, I'm going to respectfully ask you to remove yourself from participating in the conversation in this post and ask that you just listen instead (this part is all me).
I hold no ill feelings towards anyone in this rad community, just disappointed right now, and as I've repeatedly stated, I appreciate and recognize what the various admins have done and emma is a fucking badass that will forever be someone I admire and all the hard work she does is always appreciated.
BrowseDuringClass1917 wrote (edited )
Disagree with 1, 2 & 3.
This is unreasonable and admins have explained why multiple times.
No,
Being a human can of spam is not an acceptable response to bigotry as it literally serves no purpose and helps nobody. Also most of the time it isn't even directed at real bigots and just destroys threads. If you want people to be banned faster, like you said in your first point, then act better in threads and stop making them impossible to read.
u/amongstclouds is engaging in ban evasion from f/meta. Punishment when?