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ziq wrote (edited )

It isn't fair to group all these ban proposals together. People won't bother judging each case individually and are likely to just say 'support'. Collective judgement is unfair.

We should probably make a rule about this but the sidebar is already at its maximum character limit.

u/FusionTorpedo alts:

There's no way to prove that so it's not a good reason for a ban proposal.

EDIT:

u/PlopperPoop has already been banned.

EDIT2:

RE: /u/snowy, "reactionary ideology" could mean anything and isn't a clear ToS violation. "Xenophobia" isn't really a ToS violation either since they're technically punching up (Taiwan is an island, China is an empire).

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n_n OP wrote

They commented in the same posts with similar wording, anyway they are reactionaries.

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ziq wrote

I see a lot of the leftist ideologues that use this site as reactionaries, but that doesn't make them deserving of a sitewide ban.

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n_n OP wrote (edited )

What sets this site apart from others is our no-tolerance policy for bigotry and reactionary ideology

And xenophobia is bigotry.

I don't think that all deserve a permanent ban or site wide, that is up to debate in each case.

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ziq wrote (edited )

reactionary ideology in that context means like "fuck immigrants, close the borders, white power!"

Xenophobia is deliberately not listed in the content policy because it would be construed as including incidents of 'punching up' (Kurds not liking Turkey, Iraqis not liking USA, Palestinians not liking Israel, etc.) Some forms of 'xenophobia' are understandable. No one likes their oppressors.

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n_n OP wrote

Kensin and t_1635 defended 8chan, that act is reactionary as say "they are good people in both sides". They try to whitewash fascist.

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ziq wrote

Would you ban a Taiwanese person for objecting to chinese rule?

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ziq wrote

Where I'm from, Chinese and Russian Oligarchs have bought up all the coastal lands and rents have skyrocketed so much that indigenous ppl would have to spend 3x their salaries to afford a studio flat. They also see us as peasants and treat us like crap, calling us 'donkey person' and other insults. I don't like them and wish they'd go back to their countries. I think a lot of people would consider that xenophobic.

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n_n OP wrote

I take Snowy out of the discussion.

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n_n OP wrote

So I should make a post for each user?

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ziq wrote

I think admins should just ignore all the votes in this thread that don't specify the usernames their votes are being cast for.

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Snowy wrote

I guess someone can DIY 100 accounts per 1 minute for "voting",LOL.

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ziq wrote

See the sidebar. There are requirements for voting but I agree that voting to ban people is a bad system and easy to subvert.

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