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ergdj5 wrote

I think that it would help if ziq stopped seeing raddle as their own personal space to 'challenge people on their beliefs' without solicitation (except if they are unambiguous ToS skirters),

AND

the people who are antagonising ziq (who appear to have not much else to do somehow) would help us by becoming conscious that their petty vendetta is hurting people who came to raddle to get away from this shithole planet.

You are all a pain, and none of you are in the right; please stop

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ziq wrote (edited )

stopped seeing raddle as their own personal space to 'challenge people on their beliefs' without solicitation

I think that's unfair. I post memes about ideology, people don't have to engage with them. It's not like I go into f/lenin and start badmouthing lenin. I post memes to the general meme forum about an ideology or a historic figure and they respond by posting memes about me. It's a huge difference. I wouldn't violate a space set up for their ideology to force confront them. If they want to engage me about the meme, they can do so and I'll always explain my reasoning thoroughly and won't engage in a personal attack.

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ziq wrote (edited )

that being said I am going to be less mocking of my political opponents going forward because of a conversation I had with tequila_wolf about how I engage people and its debatable effectiveness.

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Dumai wrote

burn the place down and leave it behind

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selver wrote (edited )

Stop engaging in it. Try to create a culture where we just downvote and move on, maybe?

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Cheeks wrote

There has been an ongoing debate regarding the trade off of accountability and anonymity in online communities for decades. I'm not suggesting a decrease in anonymity by any means, but am raising a question as how to promote more accountability among raddlers? Could the solution lay within increased accountability?

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ziq wrote (edited )

Ban COINTELPRO mimicking behavior.

Including witch hunts, faux struggle sessions against users that aren't breaking any rules and toxic alt accusations and reactionary character assassination meant to discredit people that aren't buying a toxic clique's groupthink.

When people are engaging in prolonged personal attacks against specific users as a way to prolong petty drama, tell them to stop and ban them if they won't. Especially when they make vague passive aggressive and unsubstantiated accusations about users in order to spread fear and doubt and turn their enemies into pariahs they can boo and hiss to get their kicks.

Stop tolerating invasions of user's security culture and privacy completely. Like most anarchists, when my privacy is violated, I freak out; which lets the people engaged in the abuse appear as if they have the high ground. They don't. No anarchist should put up with security culture violations.

If I could link to the matrix, I'd have hundreds more incredibly toxic examples. That's the main venue for reactionary behavior, and then it would bleed onto the main site after spawning there.

The matrix is where the drama factory was centralized and that's why it needed to be dealt with swiftly after months of walking on eggshells so as not to upset the toxic clique holding the site hostage.

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ziq wrote (edited )

also to be honest: by not asking what people don't like about raddle, because that's just an invitation for bitter trolls to attack people (me) with their alts. I especially abhor passive aggressive trolling but the ziq-ruins-everything alts are almost as annoying and I guess they're just as passive aggressive since they're hiding behind throwaways.