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dele_ted wrote

Since I keep coming up in this context, let me say this:

The shit about being bland is long gone. I made a serious mistake, i have apologised for it numerous times. We all make mistakes, we should all be allowed to make mistakes, as long as we are able to recognize them and make an effort to change.

The drama yesterday about racism was nothing but a disagreement on definitions, and a misunderstanding on whether it was a joke or not. We cleared the air and got in on the same frequency again.

Calling me a white supremacist and queerphobe for that is way too much.

To get back on topic, the admins don't need more power, they need less. I oppose.

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emma wrote (edited )

Calling me a white supremacist and queerphobe for that is way too much.

No where did I explicitly call you 'a white supremacist and queerphobe', but you've certainly said questionable stuff pertaining to white supremacy and queerphobia. Your continuing insistence that the argument about racism amounts to a 'disagreement on definitions' makes me very sceptical of you, because it shows that you really haven't understood the core of the issue at all. Please consider the possibility that even self-described leftists like yourself are largely products of your environments, and so attitudes pertaining to white supremacy and patriarchy must be unlearnt.

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dele_ted wrote

What is the core of the issue then? I thought we reached an agreement yesterday - I learned from it, and will make a serious effort to educate myself more on the topic before i speak in the future (please remember that I didn't think c0mrade was joking - somehow you and others keep insisting that I was reacting to a joke, which is a lie).

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Pop wrote

that you don't realise that the following shows that you are just going about your day not bothering to try to learn as many people are pointing out your messed up behaviour:

  • the straights thing and the racism thing are different cases the same problem
    you also don't get to decide when something is 'long gone', as the person who did it

  • this is not just a matter of definitions for the race thing

  • because of the first point, if you really understood what was wrong about the straights thing (as you say), you wouldn't have said that this is just a matter of definitions for the race thing
    so it casts doubt on your having understood what you did wrong with the straights thing

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dele_ted wrote

just going about your day not bothering to try to learn

That's not at all true. I've been reading up on the topic, I've been discussing again and again with other people here, I have listened to what they have to say and learned from it. Apparently, what was true yesterday is not true today, though.

this is not just a matter of definitions for the race thing

We talked about this in the thread yesterday, and that seemed to be the conclusion we reached. My definition of racism was the one written in the dictionary, and I hadn't realized that so many people here have a vastly different understanding of that word. I'm more than willing to learn where and why I am wrong, though, if you want to explain it.