What to do about Raddle: [EDIT:] Perhaps we should keep talking until a solution emerges and actions are taken. Let's try to find something agreeable collectively.
Submitted by An_Old_Big_Tree moderator in meta (edited )
I'm sure that by now many of you have a lot of thoughts about the state of raddle, where it's going wrong, and who is responsible. I do.
Many of us like Raddle because we have already have experienced it as a special place. There have been periods in Raddle's existence when there were a handful of solid people here, with good politics and unique ways to contribute to conversations. In particular, I would like to hear from those people here.
Really all of our many problems are are more or less manageable for me but one; as much as I'd like to, I don't have full faith in either ziq or emma, both of whom we rely on for vital functions of the space (hosting and developing/webmastering respectively). I understand that people are all in the world, dealing with the shit the world gave them and the selves the world made them into. The world is shit and I try to take responsibility for the space beyond myself because I think that mutual aid is the closest thing to a desirable core value, and so, as well as for many of you I feel responsible for those two people.
Raddle already takes up a lot of my time and energy, though I have generally not an easy life and have experienced some terrible things lately. There's only so much I can do. Leftous has tried hard to pick up some slack for us, but for whatever reason I have not understood his position on much since he became admin, which has been less reassuring than I would have liked, just in terms of my confidence in the space.
As things stand, I haven't got the emotional energy at the moment to ask ziq what their relation to this space is going forward. Perhaps they will come here to answer that for us. So far as I understand, emma is often in two minds about whether she wants to continue participating here in any way. Neither of these two things bode well for the space. As for me, I preferred when I was just a user on this site and not an admin, but have been willing to do it given our current circumstances.
So. What do you all want to do? Let's hear it.
This is officially a post that doesn't have room for people being shitty or vicious or generally spiteful assholes to each other. If you want to do that, you are welcome to create your own post for your circlejerk.
Xylanthius wrote (edited )
Why is it such a big deal that Ziq had alternative accounts?
He really cared about this community. Everyone who posts here has just as many mental problems and traumas that he has. I don't understand why he is being a scapegoat when no one's hands are clean here.
He even apologized. I think that was really big of him considering how everyone has been treating him on this site. I think it's cool of him that he's still willing to host the site.. it kind of shows how much he cares about the community.
I think he cares about the vision of the community.
I think Emma does too.
I'm not sure anyone knows the best way to move forward at this point. I thought it was a pretty strong site before all the drama. It's unusual how one seemingly little thing resulted in killing the site. It's been pretty stale around here since all that happened.
I don't understand why all of this stuff has to be taken so personally. It doesn't seem practical or efficient.
I work in a center for geriatric care. these people get old and injured all the time. Some of them work through their problems with a higher vision. some of them let one injury cripple their whole mentality. These perspectives make a huge difference in their whole life as well as the rest of their functioning. One thing leads to the other. This is how systems work.
The community is like a system. I vote that we have to stay focused on the bigger picture. The site was more efficient before the straw landed that broke raddle. Why can't we recover from that? And are the reasons why we can't stronger than the reasons why we can?
Life is too short to focus on hate. Life is really all about mentality.
I'm not sure what the big fear is.
If Emma decides to stop coding for the site, we will live on. efficient lives.
If ziq decides to make a new account, we will live on.
While all the members are talking, I also think it might be interesting to hear what ziq and Emma have to say without anyone else interfering. Maybe they could have an open conversation with each other and everyone else can simply listen and support their decisions if anything. I wonder how the two of them feel about all of this since they are the ones who started the site in the first place.
What do you all think about that?
I think that Ziq contributed something to the site. His missing presence has left a void.
While Tequila Wolf says she doesn't have faith in others, I wonder how realistic it is to hold these strangers from the internet with such high expectations in the first place? If this is a community we should act like it and support each other vs attack each other. Ultimately that is what is killing the site.
Forgiveness is divine.