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[FEATURE REQUEST] Add agree/disagree counter on comments

Submitted by TheLegendaryBirdMonster in meta (edited )

right now, upvote and downvote are used as agree/disagree counters, but also as relevant/irrelevant counters. I believe that we should separate those two functionalities. Right now, an interesting stance/argument will only get upvoted (so more visible) if it follows the general consensus of this site, and I'm scared that we'll turn into an echo chamber.

I think it would be good to add one or two counters that measure the reception of a comment, which does not alter the place of the comment in the thread. If someone comments something unpopular but still interesting, they can get visibility while raddlers can still express their agreement/disagreement.

Ideally, those "useless" counters would be forum-specific, and there could be multiple ones: for example, on one forum there could be a counter for agreements and another one for disagreements, while on another forum there would be a unique average agreement/disagreement counter. /f/memer could also have a "dank" counter too for example.

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____deleted____ wrote

Oppose

this wouldnt solve the problem and people would still downvote what they disagree with; this is a fact we must live with

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dele_ted wrote

Oppose. I'd rather that we did away with upvotes/downvotes completely.

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rosalique wrote

Abstain. After reading all this, I've had a few thoughts.

I think it'd be better to make the points on posts hidden but keep the post ranking. Also, maybe just an upvote, or heart, or star, or whatever that you hit if you think the post is relevant and should be read or like it or whatever, while changing the downvote into a text link that reads "Not Relevant" and place it to the right of the Permalink link. My thinking is that:

  1. When presented with a big affirmative symbol and no other symbols, the apparent choices are press or don't press. If someone doesn't agree, the obvious choice is to not click and either leave a reply (which we would want to encourage over downvoting anyway) or move on.

  2. This will hopefully discourage knee-jerk downvotes, as "Not Relevant" is not equivalent to the affirmative symbol.

  3. With post points hidden, there would be less chance of piling on in either direction.

  4. Since downvotes are less accessible, they are also more valuable as mod flags. Posts with high amounts of likes AND not relevants could be a sign of a manipulation, for example.

  5. Maybe when the user clicks "Not Relevant", the post hides itself from the user? Just spitballing with this one.

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sudo wrote

No, I think that's making it too complicated.

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

w/etiquette basically has us set up that up and downvotes aren't for agreeing or disagreeing at all.

I'm not sure that we need this though, since we can comment about our agreement.

Separately, I've changed the sidebar since feature requests will no longer be processed from here.

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leftous wrote

Basically you want a sort of customizable like button?

I really like the idea.

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selver wrote

I would support for the sake of experimenting, not that I think too much would change.

But without someone actively working on the code I don't think we can make the change yet.

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leftous wrote (edited )

Emma announced she has resumed working on the code. The most recent code update was a few days ago to add webhooks to Postmill. Her recent announcement said that software feature requests should be added to the issues log on gitlab, though https://gitlab.com/edgyemma/Postmill/issues

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Magma5 wrote (edited )