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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

Can you be a bit more specific about what you think is toxic, as applies to the forum generally rather than just that recent post?

I'd like people to generally act in better faith on this site, but I'm not sure if I agree broadly with what you've said here. (that said, I don't spend much time on this forum)

I don't mind if people want to showcase clear examples of what is bad/hypocritical about liberalism, and also to critique the liberalism inherent in some supposed radical politics.
People are angry and it can be a useful way to express that anger, I think, and also be an accessible way for people to learn about the kinds of things that radicals dislike.

I do think that using it to mock established members of the community seems generally undesirable (though I imagine it will have its place when dealing with actual liberal users), though.

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kore OP wrote

This does not happen often on the forum, but it happens often on the site: I often do not understand what is being criticized if it is not a "clear example of what is bad/hypocritical about liberalism." Many posts here (not just ones critical of certain views) are heavily allusive and impenetrable to people who have not read a lot of theory. The critiques some people do have, which are often opaque to me (and probably to others) are so invective while at the same time only understandable to people who are "in on the joke" that it prevents people who are genuinely curious about these things from voicing their views because they are afraid they will be ripped apart by words they don't understand.

You are right that as far as /f/ShitLiberalsSayOrDo may not be toxic generally, but I think behaviors that I just outlined are.

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

I think you're right - we've tried to combat this by making it w/etiquette that people who post critiquing memes do so with explanations. Perhaps we should find a way to do this more broadly, at least for general forums.

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