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I don't see what hierarchy has to do with it. I just didn't agree with your comment or consider it at all compatible with socialism.

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kore wrote (edited )

When people are scared to speak because they are afraid of being shamed, that is a de facto hierarchy.

It is much more useful to address people's opinions/arguments with words (as you are doing right now) than make a spectacle of them.

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Pop wrote

Raddle's not just a socialist site though, and there are ways to be radical without being socialist here

this does seem unfair

and I get really confused at why there are a handful of you who are confident that defasher is the meanie here
when I find it much easier to understand their position and contextualise their actions in response to a collective kind of bullying from you folks together with a lack of genuine attempt to engage

I agree that defasher's not always the best at getting their ideas across or the friendliest when challenged but the response they get ... it doesn't put you folks in a good light

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Pop wrote

This is a cartoon called colonial mario about colonial types imposing their lifeways on indigenous peoples

your understanding this as being leftists who are being lectured by reactionaries is literally what this cartoon critiques, because you're understanding indigenous peoples in terms of your own categories even as they persistently try to resist them

which is actually quite stunning for me

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Pop wrote (edited )

Defasher and others have said on multiple occasions that they are not an anarcho-primitivist

and it really shows how little you both understand about the politics that you keep assuming/asserting that they are

literally nobody active on this site is anarcho-primitivist, afaik

sigh

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kore wrote (edited )

EDIT: I now know that Defasher posted ironically but I still don't think that things like that should be said seriously, and even when it's said ironically it can be confusing for people who don't understand the debate.

I for one have seen you post things like "GO FUCK YOURSELF PRIMMIE TRASH"

which amounts to the same: making people afraid to speak for fear of ridicule. I don't deny that some of the things that you respond to are misguided, but name calling does not do anything to resolve tensions.

I don't think such comments should be tolerated on Raddle.

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Dumai wrote

if you're talking about me then i'm not a post-leftist i just hate transhumanism with every fibre of my being lol

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kore wrote

no i wasn't specifically, just that it seems like there's pretty contentious debates about it on the site.

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kore wrote (edited )

No, I actually did not. Forgive me, I don't really understand what's going on with transhumanism and primitivism...