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Zerush wrote (edited )

It is also possible that Raddle is on various sites flagged as a network with criminal content, with discussions and threads about robberies. I think also a site that allows free speech, this should not even allow to include this. Political activism is one thing and criminal activities are quite another. This can affect users outside of this and may even have legal consequences for Raddle itself and the owner and responsible for this site, which I would be very sorry for, because I like Raddle and many of its valuable contents.

https://es.liferaftinc.com/resources/what-is-raddle-me/

https://www.echosec.net/blog/what-is-raddle.me

Examples

https://raddle.me/wiki/shopliftingml

https://raddle.me/f/Illegalism/52652/ama-professional-shoplifter-with-over-8-years-of-experience

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metocin wrote

criminal activity is political activism

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Zerush wrote

Robbery in small stores is activism? I don't think so, enough is enough that corrupt politicians are robbed of us. Apart from that, it is not exactly a more suitable method to achieve a political end, I would almost say that it is the most stupid way. The only purpose that is achieved with criminal activities in a social network is that the authorities close this website and hold the owner of this website responsible judicially. I have known the network for 20 years and have seen more than once closed to websites and forums for criminal and illegal content, the most famous Megaupload case a few years ago. Activism is something else.

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metocin wrote

effective political activism is almost always considered criminal activity.

criminal activity can be a powerful political statement.

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Zerush wrote

Naturally what is considered criminal may be relative, but I don't see what political statement there may have been stealing from a store. It is simply what it is, a theft from people who have no relation to politics, rather than trying to make a living. Let's see if one day they enter your apartment where you live and empty it completely, to see if then you also talk about a political statement.

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SnowCode wrote

Stealing in a store and stealing in a house is nothing alike. If you go to large super markets and steal food, I don't think this is morally bad. I think buying that food and supporting a shitty corporation is less ethical than stealing stuff in it.

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metocin wrote

I would say it's not that different, it just depends on the store and house. Stealing from companies that exploit workers and make profits is okay, while stealing from an owner-operated 1 person business would be pretty wack unless theyre marking up insulin or something else similarly disgusting. Stealing from someone who is not rich (I understand thats a vague qualifier) is definitely wack, while stealing from rich people is a-okay in my opinion.

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flingwingin wrote

if everyone stole from people with more money, we'd already have bridged almost all economic inequality and the ability of the government to govern would be collapsed :^)

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Zerush wrote

If a poor person by necessity steals food in a supermarket it is certainly a sign that something is wrong in a society. But this does not turnit into a political activism, with this it does not harm the food lobbie, only the owner of a franchise that has rented it from a multinational. Political activism has to be aimed at the apex of the pyramid, not at errands who just want to make a living. That someone steals preserves in a supermarket or that someone steals a sack of rice in China, is irrelevant for those who caused this underlying problem, while taking their Daikiri on their yachts.

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metocin wrote

shoplifting is absolutely a statement against capitalism and if you disagree you're a bootlicking nerd

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Zerush wrote

You are a simple failed hooligan, without the slightest idea how the system works and you want to fight capitalism, robbing in stores. You don't even know how to hit where it really hurts. It just makes me pity.

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flingwingin wrote

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-hit-where-it-hurts

Sir, you are mistaken in your belief that "where it hurts" and what really matters is the top of the "pyramid". Some make decisions and are paid offensively high salaries, but the power of society is in the people who make the economy run. More and more our society is showing itself capable of (and even demanding) acephaly. If you cut off the head, the body will move itself. The only way to hit where it hurts is to hit the body, the arteries, etc.

https://libcom.org/library/choke-points-mapping-anticapitalist-counter-logistics-california

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