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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

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ILLA_Europe wrote

Pedo? So you were banned for being a paedophile? May I ask, do you act on your sexual feelings, or try to suppress them?

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote (edited )

Yeah it seems to me that I was banned for being a pedophile. Whether or not I am a pedophile I think is debatable, but unless you want to get into those details we can just assume I am guilty of being a pedo. I would like to know why sexuality, both in thought and Practice is relevant to my use of this site? It is difficult for me to choose of these two binary options youve chosen. Without getting into too much nuance to extend thus reply even further I think for the purposes of this convo it is safe to say I do not suppress my sexuality and have acted on my sexual feelings before. As I believe I expressed in that thread but i may be misrembering and it was elsewhere, as a child I had sex with adults, which is a large reason i consider myself a pedophile (edit: when talking with teleiophiles at least).

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CaptainACAB wrote

Yeah, you're not getting your ban repealed.

I doubt any of the admins would even entertain the idea of hearing you out.

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

Why is that?

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bloodrose wrote

No one would say rape is a sexuality. I don't think it is correct to call pedo a sexuality because it is just rape. Children cannot consent to anything with an adult, for various reasons including things like power imbalance, underdeveloped pre-frontal cortex, etc etc. Being a pedo who doesn't act on it is being a rape apologist.

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bloodrose wrote

Legit. I understand there is some chan history involved in the "pedo is a sexuality" as a homophobic attack though I don't know the details behind it.

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

I did not mean to imply pedophilia and being queer are the same. I very much so do not think they are the same and tge distance between the two has perhaps never been larger. By sexuality I simply meant to refer to someone asking me about my sex life.

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

Who is pretending to be queer? Whether or not I am pedophile has nothing to do with whether or not I am queer and whether or not I am cis. If you disagree with me, or are even morally opposed to who I am, that is understandable, but I am trying to be sincere.

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

I'm unconvinced you read my reply. Are you arguing that I'm a rape victim or a rape apologist or both?

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bloodrose wrote

No, I didn't go read the whole thread. I read only this above:

unless you want to get into those details we can just assume I am guilty of being a pedo. I would like to know why sexuality, both in thought and Practice is relevant to my use of this site?

I am arguing against the idea that pedo is a sexuality.

I, too, was abused as a child and was raped by an adult and I would not self-identify as a pedo. I'd identify as an abuse victim. You chose how you want to frame what happened to you; that's your deal. But I refuse to call pedophilia a sexuality. It's rape.

And I don't think rape apologia is good to allow to spread. I think it makes people less likely to believe rape victims, more likely to side with rapists, and is a huge part of rape culture that trivializes an act of violence against others. There is a reason we ban pedo apologia.

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

Why do you get to dictate to me whether my experiences were rape or not?

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emoticons wrote

You chose how you want to frame what happened to you; that's your deal.

Did you even read their response?

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

But I refuse to call pedophilia a sexuality. It's rape.

This is obviously meant to say that my experiences were rape.

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bloodrose wrote

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to make this personal. I understand framing your life and experiences your way. I apologize if my word choices are sucking. The most important point to me is this: pedophilia is not an alternate sexuality. I do not support lifting your ban if you frame pedophilia as an alternate sexuality.

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

I appreciate the apology, and apologize if I was overly hostile myself. I hope it is understandable why I would be so over my own experiences. While obviously I disagree with you since I think my experiences show otherwise I do appreciate you supporting my ban for those reasons as opposed to the previous framing of my own experiences.

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CaptainACAB wrote (edited )

as a child I had sex with adults, which is a large reason i consider myself a pedophile

You identify yourself as a pedophile on your ban appeal post. You were banned for the support of pedophilia, whether or not it was actually on this website is irrelevant. The post that I replied to breaks TOS.

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

I guess I don't understand why behavior outside if this site affects my use of this site. If me saying I'm a pedophile here in that last post is a breach of TOS I guess that makes some sense to me, though I would appreciate discussing it furher if possible. But I'm very confused still about the original ban.

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CaptainACAB wrote

The simple answer is that no one here wants to associate with pedophiles or apologists for pedophilia; no one here condones it.

That's literally all there is to it.

You said you supported/wrote an essay that broke TOS and you did it on this website. And that's why you were banned.

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

I didn't do it on this website, I was discussing my essay in a different online space that ziq is in and said they would probably interpret it this way. I haven't posted that essay here.

If the reason I'm banned is because people don't want to associate with pedophiles thats a different discussion I think. Since it's no longer about TOS or rules but about public opinion.

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CaptainACAB wrote

You were discussing your essay here with ziq. You tied your raddle account to that essay by saying you wrote it in a conversation with ziq that can be seen on this website.

Since it's no longer about TOS or rules but about public opinion.

It's actually both, believe it or not:

Sexualizes minors or promotes adults having sex with minors.

Trivializes or makes light of rape.

Apologizes for violence towards children.

Support of pedophilia breaks all 3. You're not getting your ban repealed; you said yourself that being unbanned wasn't worth it, so piss off.

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

Ziq is the one who brought up the essay on this site, not myself. I don't see how calling myself a pedophile does any of these three. Does saying I had sex as a kid count as sexualizing minors? Like that just seems so ridiculous that anarchists would dictate to someone else how they should interpret their experiences.

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CaptainACAB wrote

I don't see how calling myself a pedophile does any of these three

That's just depressing, honestly.

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

Could you elaborate then?

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CaptainACAB wrote

No, you've taken enough of my time from me.

You're banned, you aren't getting unbanned, and you aren't going to get a satisfactory answer from any of the admins because they're going to ban you and won't bother wasting their time explaining why because they aren't as needlessly polite about things as I am.

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appealing_a_ban OP wrote

Okay, well I do appreciate the time you've spent discussing the situation even if ultimately we disagree about it.

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