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conquestoftoast wrote

Yeah I read everything before making my initial comment. “Obvious” to you seems to mean “ if you assume I’m right before reading it you’ll see it”

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conquestoftoast wrote

RBG is symbolic and inherently tied to the systems she maintained, good bad or indifferent, you cant just seperate her as a person from the work that she did. In that same line, the folks who speak about her in various "common media" will not talk about what happens in the ICE detention center but will talk about RBG as a force for womankind or whatever weird ass horseshit thats being peddled. You trying to make this about pitting groups against each other when American media has already fucking chosen the white liberal narrative on all this is disingenuous at best, and intellectually dishonest at worst. You used to be way better than this. Do better, I'm not impressed.

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conquestoftoast wrote

Look maybe I came at you to intensely at first, and I'll own I shouldve kept my shit in check for another 5 minutes before jumping down the rabbit hole.

I left for a lot of reasons, and while a big portion of it was, like you pointed out, due to this site not giving a shit about trans women, it was also because the only people, with a few exceptions, I really respected also left. Galdra was pretty much the only person who made this site worth a damn.

Remind me again about what happened to clouds? Oh right she was banned.

I feel like I pretty clearly stated my case why I didn't believe it was misogyny, and not that you explicitly said this, but like my being trans doesnt make me less able to suss out and determine if something is misogyny or not. You mightve had a case if the person in question who died wasn't literally being discussed on a national scale and therefore different contextual elements need to be addressed.

I remember you being a lot more thoughtful and nuanced, but whatever all this is, isn't that. I stand by what i said, and I still believe you're reaching and that this entire thread was unnecessary and appears to me to just be another starting point to villainizing yet another trans person on here, because thats how all the others started.

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emma wrote

You know very well clouds wasn't singled out and banned for being trans.

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