Can I ban someone for smearing me as an "eco-fascist"?

Submitted by ziq in meta

I'd love to ban them honestly just because I don't want them here, but I suspect it would create a ton of drama and that they'd get unbanned after they throw yet another tantrum in the chat room.

Freedom of association doesn't seem to matter around here when the people in question use the chat room. If they had new accounts or were shoplifters, I'm sure they'd have been banned without any drama since all they do is troll.

They said:

Raddle is becoming eco-fascist, ziq is sympathetic towards eco-fascism.

I think this level of smear is in the same league as the shit that came out of COINTELPRO and shouldn't be tolerated in anarchist spaces any more than copjacketing or suicide goading.

And on that note, is suicide goading raddle users acceptable if the person doing it happens to use that shitty chat room? Because that's the impression I got last time I banned someone for suicide goading.

Also, can we delete that chat room? Please?

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celebratedrecluse wrote (edited )

I mean, technically you can ban anyone. The power is in your hands. Frankly, it's obvious there are forces coming to disrupt and destroy the site. if it were me, if someone is antagonizing admins or the network I would respond without hesitation. But then again, I am also very skeptical of consensus based decision making being applied to anything other than face to face interactions, just as I am skeptical of face to face interactions being anything but consensus. So I have my own personal opinions, coloured by years of working in anarchist spaces and all the frustrations that come with that.

To me, I think the ToS structure might be a little too strict and structural. Honestly ziq you put in most of the resources, you deal with the criticism, I don't see why besides raw ideology that we'd pretend that you're anything but a leader for the site. If others wanted to have a say, they should have contributed-- either by modding, donating some of the money needed, or just plain avoiding causing unhelpful arguments and social chaos on here.

If there was a provision added to ToS that allows administrators a bit more leeway in terms of banning trolls, I think it might just save a lot of headaches around here and make the site more fun. Which is what matters, this ideological critique revolving around site governance from an anarchist perspective seems utterly ridiculous and like it's straining the patience of particularly you, but also other admins.

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ziq OP wrote

One of them apparently just doxxed me and the comment was removed by an admin, so I'm done playing their games now.

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BrowseDuringClass1917 wrote

The chatroom people are circlejerkers who would rather be big fish in the small pond of raddle than actually expanding and improving discussion on the site

And that’s facts

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ziq OP wrote

It's so creepy how these toxic personality cults keep forming in chat rooms and acidify everything that won't fall in line with their creepy circlejerk.

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

Stop smearing people you toxic little turd.

Your username is so offensive. You're a crypto-maoist who only comes here to call anarchists leninists and ecofascists.

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ziq OP wrote

You smearing people is what makes you a maoist, genius.

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ziq OP wrote

I've had enough of your lies. I'm banning the lot of you. If mofongo unbans you again, he can start paying for this fucking site every month.

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Splinglebot wrote

Stop smearing people

You're a maoist.

Isn't that literally what you're doing right now?

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ziq OP wrote

Engages in creepy struggle sessions, smearing people in a desperate attempt to purge them for being counter-revolutionary reactionaries?

Check.

Indoctrinated in a personality cult where dear leader can do no wrong?

Check.

Brands anarchists "fascists" / "reactionaries" for refusing to struggle with them?

Check.

Pretends to be a radical leftist while spending all their time trying to destroy radical groups with smears and paranoia?

Check.

Thinks an entire community made up of disparate people (f/illegalism) should be purged from existence because dear leader demands it?

Check.

Always travels with an army of identically shitty puritans.

Check.

Maoism.

It's only a smear if it's bullshit. Like everything that comes out of your mouths.

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Splinglebot wrote

It's only a smear if it's bullshit.

..browse was literally a leninist though. Openly.

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lastfutures wrote

I don't know why you would even open this up to discussion & trolling instead of just banning them.

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

because last time one of them was smearing me and I banned them, they got unbanned by another admin

I need consensus

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lastfutures wrote

Might be more productive to speak to that friend (and other mods) directly instead of inviting the peanut gallery into the conversation.

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