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Silver_ wrote

Reply to comment by CaptainACAB in Guess who? by ziq

Doesn't matter.

You don't have to fight them, to beat them.

Propaganda doesn't matter, you don't have to watch mainstream news

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CaptainACAB wrote

Doesn't matter. You don't have to fight them, to beat them.

It literally does matter. If you don't fight them, you have to live under their rule. You have to comply or they'll introduce your face to the pavement.

Propaganda doesn't matter, you don't have to watch mainstream news

It does matter when everyone else believes in it, you insufferable twit. The state can put you in a cage for the rest of your life and everyone will applaud, because propaganda says you deserve it for defying the state.

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Silver_ wrote

It literally does matter. If you don't fight them, you have to live under their rule. You have to comply or they'll introduce your face to the pavement.

If you pretend to comply, they won't put you in jail. The probability to see you arrested randomly, when you did everything correctly is damn low.

The state can put you in a cage for the rest of your life and everyone will applaud, because propaganda says you deserve it for defying the state.

If they can get me, good for them.

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CaptainACAB wrote

If you pretend to comply, they won't put you in jail. The probability to see you arrested randomly, when you did everything correctly is damn low.

You're under the delusion that these power tripping fucks don't mess with people, because they know they'll get away with it.

If they can get me, good for them.

"I'm fine with getting arrested. Also, government is bad; but the people who manage it are reasonable enough to not abuse their power to put me in jail."

What the fuck is wrong with you?

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Silver_ wrote

You're under the delusion that these power tripping fucks don't mess with people, because they know they'll get away with it.

Never said this. Just saying that they can't arrest every citizen, they don't have enough money to do it.

Please tell me how can YOU get arrested when doing nothing wrong/you are under the radar, I'll tell you the agorist solution

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CaptainACAB wrote (edited )

Never said this. Just saying that they can't arrest every citizen, they don't have enough money to do it.

Prisoners are free labor. It's well within the interests of the government to have full jail cells; why else would america have the highest prison population? If money was a problem, they'd just kill dissenters. And they'd get away with it, because that's how state power works.

Please tell me how can YOU get arrested when doing nothing wrong/you are under the radar, I'll tell you the agorist solution

I fall under the label of "Black Identity Extremist". I'd get arrested just by being black and hating cops.

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Silver_ wrote

I fall under the label of "Black Identity Extremist". I'd get arrested just by being black and hating cops.

How can they know that you hate cops ?

Notice the locations where they are used to arrest black people randomly/harass them -> Avoid these locations

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CaptainACAB wrote (edited )

How can they know that you hate cops ?

I use my "rights to free speech" in order to express that.

Notice the locations where they are used to arrest black people randomly/harass them -> Avoid these locations

That's not an option for those of us who live in primarily black neighborhoods, because they police those disproportionately more. It also falls under the assumption that other "voluntaryists" such as yourself would allow black people to live in their neighborhoods. Not everyone can afford to move locations freely.

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Silver_ wrote

I use my "rights to free speech" in order to express that

Yeah, but you have to be careful about what you say.

That's why the internet anonymity is such a wonderful thing.

That's not an option for those of us who live in primarily black neighborhoods, because they police those disproportionately more.

In every street corner ? 24 hours a day ? They randomly harass people that much ? Where do you live ?

"voluntaryists" such as yourself don't want black people in their neighborhoods.

Don't get where you're getting this, no problem with black people in neighborhoods...

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CaptainACAB wrote (edited )

Yeah, but you have to be careful about what you say.

I should be able to say that I don't care about dead cops without being arrested. It isn't illegal.

In every street corner ? 24 hours a day ? They randomly harass people that much ? Where do you live ?

Yes. Cops have quotas. They're literally incentivized to arrest people. Giving away my location to some stranger on a forum for radical politics to prove a point would be unwise.

Don't get where you're getting this, no problem with black people in neighborhoods...

You don't speak for other voluntaryists that hold segregationist beliefs, though.

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Silver_ wrote

I should be able to say that I don't care about dead cops without being arrested. It isn't illegal

Yes, you are able to say it. If you're not arrested, good for you, but the state doesn't give a shit about laws...

Yes. Cops have quotas. They're literally incentivized to arrest people.

Yeah, but I don't really believe it when you say that cops can monitor every corner of the street, 24 hours a day like you're saying. Even in capital cities, they don't do this. Hell, even in North Korea, they can't do this, It's too expensive.

And If they monitor this city that much, It means that there are crowds of people & you'll be able to blend in, anyway (reducing the probability to be randomly targeted)

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Silver_ wrote

Never said that rape is legitimate. I was just telling him some self defense tips against rape, nothing wrong there/no victim blaming...

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CaptainACAB wrote

every corner of the street, 24 hours a day like you're saying.

When I said "yes", I meant that cops do harass a shit ton of people, not that they're omnipresent 24/7. Obviously, they aren't. Doesn't change the fact that they focus on black and brown neighborhoods more. Nor does it change the fact that those neighborhoods are usually poor and that moving out of these neighborhoods isn't fucking easy. And that's before getting into gentrification, a process that requires more policing in order to get poor POC's out of what used to be their neighborhoods.

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Silver_ wrote

Yeah walk in high crime areas (when It is avoidable), dumbass

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CaptainACAB wrote

I mean, there's a significant overlap, but they didn't actually highlight that. They did assume that places where black people get "randomly" arrested had high crime rates.

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Silver_ wrote

I am as coward as you : go ahead, go to jail for 30 years If you are ballsy, coward

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