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Literallyshaking wrote

Are they really concentration camps? In world war two the Nazis rounded up people and took away their freedom. The folks being shepherded up by pueblas sin Fronteras are coming of their own accord, and violating United States law. Why would you take your children into such a volatile situation?

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Literallyshaking wrote

So it's revolution, then? I'm not quite there. Though I will say the United States government has failed in every job it's been given. Maintain the infrastructure, secure the elections, enforce the rule of law and it's equal application, and protect the borders. All failures.

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Literallyshaking wrote

There must be some law. Anarchy is weakness that will soon end by powerful foreign governments. China would gobble us up just to collect what we owe them if the government fell. We have to use the existing system to oust the oligarchs and corporate cronies that have seized power.

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heckthepolice2 wrote

The government's job is to enforce hierarchy through violence, and it has succeeded resoundingly at that task. Framing the state as "broken" or "failed" completely misses the point of why states exist in the first place and leads to the dangerous idea that we can use the state to fight hierarchy, as if it's some kind of neutral tool

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Literallyshaking wrote

Dude, I lived in Tucson. The border is a lawless mess. And these people just keep coming. The border patrol isn't crossing into Mexico to get these people they just keep assailing the border and there are a lot of very bad dudes mixed in that I guarantee you don't want in your neighborhood.

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heckthepolice2 wrote

I know that no functional examples of anarchy exist today

What about hunter-gatherer societies? What about the EZLN? What about Rojava? If we're including historical examples, what about the CNT-FAI in Catalonia? None of these are "pure anarchies", perhaps, but that's because there's no such thing. Anarchy isn't about building some abstract utopia. It's about the real struggle against all forms of hierarchy.

"Anarchy is a tension, not a realization"

-Alfredo M. Bonanno

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Literallyshaking wrote

Okay....well. if you are a southwest native then you've got a real case against my people. But in our defense we did bring water to the southwest and did our level best to preserve your culture and do right by you with entitlements, opportunities, etc. But if you want a fight you'll certainly get one. May the better people win.

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Literallyshaking wrote

300 million people in the United states over half the globe. All enjoying liberties and opportunities unheard of elsewhere in the world. Saying "burn it down" just sounds childish. Sure, it's been hijacked and slipping into authoritarianism....but to throw it all out is stupid.

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heckthepolice2 wrote

it's been hijacked

Sorry, could you point me to the time in history before it was hijacked? Was it slavery? Jim Crow? When women couldn't vote? When being gay was illegal? Was it the genocide of millions of indigenous people? Japanese Internment?

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Literallyshaking wrote

Haha! Good luck with that chip on your shoulder, buddy. We have consistently kicked your people's asses and we will continue to do so. I didn't understand till now why my people were motivated to do it. You guys are assholes.

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heckthepolice2 wrote

The Federal Reserve was established in 1913. Some things that happened before 1913 include but are far from limited to:

  • The enslavement of millions

  • The Trail of Tears

  • The massacre at Wounded Knee

  • The founding of the KKK

  • Literally thousands of lynchings

  • Jim Crow laws

  • Ubiquitous sweatshop labour, including by children

And if the America you're advocating for is the kind that does shit like that, I'd like to ask that you please fuck off and die

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heckthepolice2 wrote

The Federal Reserve Act was spearheaded by Nelson Aldrich, a Republican senator.

So it sounds to me like you want to go back to a time controlled by democrats that was ruined by the actions of republicans right?

(also do you think I'm a democrat because if so that's fucking hilarious)

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ziq wrote

I'm talking about preserving what our fathers built

So preserving your privilege that was built on the backs of migrants, the global South and by perpetrating ecocide on the whole planet?

Yeah, fuck that. I hope everything your father built crumbles into dust.

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c0pdislik3r_ wrote (edited )

The border is a lawless mess

lmao i grew up in the same area and this was literally the best part. people used to just do what they wanted. could cross whenever wherever and not be bothered by asshole cops

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jaidedctrl wrote

How about we go back to the whole, “They are coming because USA destroyed their countries by upholding or bringing corrupt governments to power and their corporations siphoning away all the wealth.”

You just going to ignore that?

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