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blog wrote

Ace people receive threats of corrective rape and do get correctively raped. This includes male aces. It's not that they are being mistaken for gay people, they are being raped to "cure" them of specifically asexuality.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

Got sources on that, or some way in which that's not directly a consequence of misogyny? Ace people get assaulted because of how misogyny functions. Nobody's targeting you for being ace.

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blog wrote (edited )

You're right, because I'm not ace. You, however, are an asshole.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

Nah, you're just a tankie that thinks you have a right to let them into our spaces. Eat a bullet.

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blog wrote (edited )

Criticizing anarchists isn't the same as being a tankie. Bringing up the assumption that I'm a tankie because I criticized anarchists in another thread is intellectually dishonest as fuck because 1 -- it's literally wrong 2 -- it still wouldn't prove me wrong on this point even if I was a tankie (failing to be impressed with the RIAU is absolutely not the definition of what being a tankie is) 3 -- assuming I'm ace because I spoke up for ace people is guilt by association and you'd recognize it for what it was if a straight person accused someone of being gay for speaking up for gay people. It literally bespeaks your own fear and hatred because you're unable to comprehend why anybody other than aces would speak up for them.

People telling me to die because I criticized anarchists and pointed out aces get correctively raped.

This place is disgusting.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

Still waiting on that source or how that isn't a direct consequence of misogyny. The door's right there, feel free to take the rest of the inclusionists on your way out.

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blog wrote (edited )

If a male ace gets raped by a woman because she doesn't believe he could be disinterested in sex how is that misogynist?

And is it your position this has literally never happened?

My sources are: actual ace people who've been correctively raped. If you won't believe it happens without numbers.... would it have been reasonable to deny corrective rape existed at all before numbers on it existed?

EDIT: Here's a link to an ace person talking about it pointing out that corrective rape clearly is not solely misogynist nor homophobic as well as the way that aces experience harrassment specifically because people interpret their identity as a sexual challenge: http://theasexualityblog.tumblr.com/post/143094779590/corrective-rape-in-relation-to-asexuals

Today on the wonderland that is raddle: Some aphobe telling me to eat a bullet for pointing out that aphobia is a thing.

EDIT where did you go? Did you realize you were full of shit?

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

It's literally a function of misogyny, you twit. If you read even an ounce of feminist theory rape of men still upholds patriarchy and misogyny by stripping manhood and the strength associated with it from him, likewise women are held to be unable to rape because we're perceived as weak. Start with the fucking basics before you step to me. My position is that it fulfills that function and that cishet ace people face no material oppressions specific to aceness.

Lesbians and bi women deal with the exact same shit because men feel entitled to all bodies, which again, is a function of you guessed it, misogyny. Aceness only matters to men insofar as it presents a barrier to their exertion of power over not-men. They face no other structural barriers at the fuck all.

Nah fam, I went to go handle shit IRL because I'm not online all the time. Have you gotten that bullet yet? It looks pretty delicious.

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blog wrote (edited )

No doubt it is connected to misogyny, and I never denied this, but misogyny is specifically the hatred of women. Men being harmed by patriarchy isn't misogyny itself and it's incoherent to claim this.

Bigots telling me to eat bullets: the height of radicalism

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

Actual queer people telling straights to fuck out of our spaces, you mean. You're completely unable to source any real material oppression that ace folk specifically face, because what challenges they do encounter are in fact wholly fucking rooted in misogyny. Which like, hey, cishet women are oppressed too, but they're not gays and that's a fucking okay. Words actually mean things, shocker of the century.

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this_one wrote

It seems like any oppression a-spec people do face, apparently "doesn't count" to you. If you ignore all the ways a-spec people are oppressed, sure! They're not oppressed! But changing the definition of "oppression" doesn't make anyone safer, so it's a pointless, shitty, derailing thing to do.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

You literally face no systemic oppressions. There are no laws that target you. You will not be murdered for being ace. You will not be denied the right to marry if you are heteroromantic. In no meaningful way does your aceness impact your rights. Grow the fuck up and stop thinking being in the LGBT is some cool secret club you're denied access to.

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blog wrote (edited )

Nobody ever claimed cishet aces are specifically gay, but okay, keep on with your nasty bullshit

edit: literally everything queer people face comes back to patriarchy/misogyny in some way so find a real argument. Using your "logic" there's no way to stop this argument from also invalidating everything all queer people go through as just "misogyny"

EDIT: Are you calling me straight? Because I'm not.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote (edited )

The thread is literally about cishet aces infiltrating and attacking queer people in our own spaces, you fucking moron. I used straight women as an example because they, like cishet aces, face misogynistic oppression, but it's not the same thing as being LGBT and they don't have any right to LGBT spaces or resources because they're specifically produced by and set aside for ourselves to support eachother.

Yeah, except we actually have to deal with that shit in specific ways and have built coalitions for the express purpose of supporting eachother through it. There are laws built to oppress LGBT people specifically, on the axis of our bi/homosexuality or our transness. There are entire structures of society that exist to exploit and kill us, and none of those things exist that target ace folk. At most they suffer a relatively minor stigma of being prudish or uptight which given how they fucking act when they do get invited into queer spaces, is not undeserved. When you can't get married and as such are denied visitation rights in hospitals or child custody or the tax and insurance benefits marriage brings, come back and talk to me about oppression. When you're actively targeted specifically for your aceness for rape, murder and ostracism, come talk to me about oppression. When it is illegal for you to exist to the point pogroms are started to hunt you down, come talk to me about oppression.

EDIT: Reading comprehension, pick it the fuck up. I'm talking about cishet aces, because that's the subject of this entire idiotic exchange. Please eat your bullet, it's getting cold.

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blog wrote (edited )

When you're actively targeted specifically for your aceness for rape

Yes indeed I already pointed out that this happens. Not sure why you feel the need to deny this. You can only do so by ignoring ace people. I mean literally a moment's worth of Googling will make it clear that this happens to ace people.

Also, you've done this several times but you've used derogatory terms to insult my intelligence which is always ableist and allegedly against this site's TOS. Moron specifically mocks people with intellectual disabilities, actually comes straight from medical ableism. Funny how you're railing and screaming about bigotry while you spew so much yourself, deny and trivialize rape, etc.

I'm out of this thread.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

Kill yourself on the way out, quisling. Moron hasn't had that definition since the fucking thirties. I keep telling you that it happens because of misogyny, you waste of flesh. You refuse to acknowledge that because it'd mean your MOGAI shit is unproductive.

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blog wrote

Yeah, telling anyone to kill themselves is super ableist because there exist mentally ill folks who just might do it; and moron is clearly an ableist slur, like any term that insults people based on intelligence and which comes from medical ableism. The oppression of all LGBT people happens "because of misogyny" and I'm not a waste of flesh just because you're really bigoted.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

Bigoted against literal straights, lmfao. Actually kill yourself. I'm waiting.

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blog wrote

Disabled folks and mentally ill/suicidal people literally don't matter to you, in your own words. Alrighty then.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

You don't matter to me, and I doubt that they much matter to you either given your willingness to use them as a pawn.

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blog wrote (edited )

I'm disabled you piece of shit. Why do you think I have so much time to sit and argue with jerks online?

You're being ableist and all you've done in this thread is deflect from your own bullshit and bigotry. Go fuck yourself

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

So am I, you weakling. I don't use it as a shield. Kill yourself already, you're taking way too long.

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blog wrote

In addition to being disabled, you're also horrifically ableist. Really? Weakling?

I'm not using it as a shield, you're being fucking horribly ableist

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

You literally only brought it up because I called you stupid for acting stupid. Last one for tonight, eat that bullet and save everyone the trouble.

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blog wrote (edited )

You violated this "radical" site's TOS and triggered the language bot by using multiple slurs but okay, addressing bigotry is stupid.

btw stupid is also definitely also ableist, and telling people to kill themselves is also ableist

You made arguments and called me stupid for not accepting them. That's just you being ableist

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