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ziq wrote

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You registered an account just to say that?

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blog wrote

Seems like you don't want clear and straightforward discussion of when it's permissible to criticize anarchists here!

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ziq wrote

You registered an account just to say that?

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blog wrote

You registered an account just to say that?

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ziq wrote

No see my post history.

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blog wrote

What makes you think the only reason I registered was to ask that question? Is it because you think your site has nothing going for it?

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ziq wrote

Hey, concern troll, shut the fuck up. I'm in a pissy mood and irl i'd smack you just for fucking looking at me.

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blog wrote (edited )

I asked a question about what would be acceptable and you started whining about how dare I ask questions about moderation policy here

also since the post is still up it seems like the actual moderation team doesn't seem to think it's a TOS violation

also, what is it with anarchists telling others what to do?

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ziq wrote

you started whining about how dare I ask questions about moderation policy here

never happened. shut the fuck up.

also, what is it with anarchists telling others what to do?

it's called denying a (red) fascist a platform though direct action. now shut the fuck up.

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blog wrote (edited )

You're not denying me anything and people who criticize Makhnovischna aren't automatically tankies

Literally declaring all money legal tender led to hyperinflation which fucked over workers, but I guess pointing out the results of anarchist policy is literally identical to fascism

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ziq wrote

Oh noes they hurt the STATE CAPITALIST ECONOMY??!! Those scoundrels!

Tankies gonna tank.

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blog wrote (edited )

I was referring to Ukrainian workers inside the Free Territory -- the RSFSR was under a different economic policy and was not affected by the hyperinflation induced inside the Free Territory by the policy that all money is legal tender.

Workers inside the RSFSR faced a whole other set of problems but that doesn't make the Makhnovschina beyond reproach.

Anarchists gonna... be incredibly reductive and call everyone who criticizes them fascists

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ziq wrote

The mistake you're making is thinking I give a shit about the economy. If you want to abolish money, you strip it of all its value.

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blog wrote

What you don't give a shit about is people affected by these destructive and short-sighted policies.

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ziq wrote (edited )

you're right about that

they've been dead for 100 years

and btw anarchy isn't a policy, it's permanent fight against / rejection of policies. you need authority to dictate policy.

when you're fighting the machinations of hierarchy, you don't stop to ask "but what if these factory workers won't be able to buy as much stuff now?" that's how you keep capitalism alive

but you know all about that as an ML

burn the factory down and liberate the workers from their chains

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blog wrote (edited )

http://www.ditext.com/arshinov/appendix.html

DECLARATION OF THE REVOLUTIONARY INSURGENT ARMY OF THE UKRAINE (MAKHNOVIST)

[ various proclamations ]

  1. Soviet and Ukrainian money must be accepted equally with other monies. Those guilty of violation of this are subject to revolutionary punishment.

The Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine ABSOLUTELY imposed monetary policy on people in the Free Territory. You could argue they weren't properly anarchist but you haven't gone there yet. So far all you've done is called Ukrainian workers tankies in response to this criticism.

Not imposing policies would have meant saying people could have accepted or declined any currency, or equivalently, not legislating monetary policy. Instead they declared all money was equally good -- and if you didn't go along with it.... an army would subject you to revolutionary punishment.

The result of this legislation was hyperinflation because you weren't free to turn down any money.

EDIT The Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine didn't burn the factories down

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