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ziq wrote

Who let the downvoter in?

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arduinna OP wrote

actually stalin only killed 14 million people not 18 million so uh the soviet union hardly did anything wrong

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ziq wrote

also mao only sicked his red guard lynch mobs on people that deserved it. You know, for liking cats and stuff.

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FULLCOMMUNIST wrote (edited )

Seeing as how Marxism-Leninism helped dozens of countries decolonize in their anti-imperialist fronts, as well as provide their citizens with equal rights by law, ungendered education, full housing, healthcare, and boosting industry/infrastructure in places that were previously agrarian/feudal-- I'd say that "Stalinism" was quite a success.

Compare that to the drunken, grain-stealing, rapist bandit nutjob Bakunin, or the failure of anarchist communes to defend their revolution against capitalist intervention.

It wasn't perfect, but it accomplished and defended far more than any anarchist ever.

Lenin Lives.

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ziq wrote (edited )

Wooo peasant genocide, gulags for gays and red-imperialism ftw!!! Because Bakunin existed! Fascism forever! Moustache combs and yummy boots for everyone!

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FULLCOMMUNIST wrote (edited )

Thanks for acknowledging the importance of decolonization, comrade. I don't expect these anarkiddies to take off their racism goggles anytime soon.

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ziq wrote

You're the best tankie ever.

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ziq wrote

Seriously, I wish I could frame this.

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FULLCOMMUNIST wrote (edited )

Hm not sure if you know this but u/buzz is actually criticizing the fact that you didn't engage with the importance of Marxism-Leninism in decolonization, which is very characteristic of white anarchists and not surprising at all. I can't tell if you guys are upvoting them because you're agreeing with ML or if you're literally too politically vapid to even know what the post was referring to. Anarchists gonna anarchist, I guess.

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ziq wrote (edited )

they were being sarcastic and you don't give a shit about decolonisation. signed, an anarchist in a post-colonial place that has been wrecked by fucking tankies and their collectivist capitalism.

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FULLCOMMUNIST wrote

I don't see how they're being sarcastic when it's actually a legitimate statement and one that is characteristically ascribed to anarchists, but okay lmao

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ziq wrote (edited )

you'll quickly find your fascist propaganda doesn't work here.

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FULLCOMMUNIST wrote

cringing so hard right now

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ziq wrote (edited )

you're so deeply lodged up your own shitpipe you can't even tell when you're being mocked

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FULLCOMMUNIST wrote

Um, not really? It sure says a lot about anarchists when criticisms of their dismissal of Marxist importance in the global south and decolonization is seen as "mockery", read a fucking book.

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ziq wrote (edited )

your politics are basic as fuck yet somehow you feel superior to me

stop using the global south aka my home to push your authoritarian workerist capitalist bullshit

furthermore, stalinism isn't marxism and you're a liar for pretending it is.

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FULLCOMMUNIST wrote (edited )

What exactly are your politics? Did you develop them from memes? Lmao, what exactly have you said here with any substance? Because your politics sound like the same cringelord meme bullshit that 16-year-olds who simply refuse to read a book have, the type who develop their politics from quote images and comic strips.

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ziq wrote

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FULLCOMMUNIST wrote (edited )

For real, there was nothing remotely "sarcastic" about your original comment, but come on now, we're arguing with an anarchist lmao. I love how your comment got the most upvotes too, are anarchists just politically illiterate and don't even know what their own politics are? Or is this thread actually full of ML lurkers? Lmaoooo.

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FULLCOMMUNIST wrote

Okay, that's fine I guess, at least you're not pushing that anti-civ an-prim nonsense that the rest of this site seems to love so much.

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ziq wrote

awesome critique there, mate. I'm humbled by your political astuteness. If only us poor simple peasants could understand that only mega-industrial state capitalism will save us from your imperialism.

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ziq wrote

You sure crack yourself up a lot, kid.

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FULLCOMMUNIST wrote

Dude they literally just said they're not being sarcastic or ironic, and that you DO sound white as hell, what are you still going on about?

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ziq wrote (edited )

Yes, talking about indigenous concerns and the destruction wrought on us by western civilization is 'white as hell.'

you somehow finding a fellow tankie in a sea of anarchists is nothing to gloat about. who gives a shit about buzz's opinion?

your western imperialist collectivist-capitalist machinations are completely transparent to anyone with a morsel of self awareness.

btw the only people I've ever seen use the word 'dude' were all white USAmericans, so you can drop the act.

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ziq wrote (edited )

so I have to praise western collectivist capitalism for giving the global south the industrial nightmare that has led to the wholesale destruction of the earth and the erasure of indigenous cultures all over the world, not to mention the ability of indigenous peoples to survive autonomously without capitalism and what amounts to revised slave labor? my bad...

tankies gonna tank

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ziq wrote

why does doublespeak piss me off?

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ziq wrote (edited )

a) I'm already colonised

b) the ruler tankies in my country continue to assist colonizers to further colonize us

c) tankie states have colonized the fuck out of the world so you're not making the point you think you're making

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arduinna OP wrote

I dunno, why don't we ask the Ukrainians or the Uyghurs

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arduinna OP wrote

What is, then? Are 'reeducation camps' for millions not sufficiently suppressive?

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arduinna OP wrote

That's a point, but I don't see the major difference in what it actually means for the people.

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arduinna OP wrote (edited )

provide their citizens with equal rights by law,

Unless gay, anarchist, or otherwise undesirable, I'm sure.

boosting industry/infrastructure in places that were previously agrarian/feudal

You're aware that's kinda what the industrial revolution and birth of capitalism did elsewhere, right? It isn't exactly a Stalinist-only aspiration.

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FULLCOMMUNIST wrote (edited )

Uh yeah it's kinda hard to industrialize when you're colonized and getting your resources extracted by industrialized capitalist nations, that's... kind of the point of decolonization. Mentioning the industrial revolution and capitalism in this argument is a moot point.

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ziq wrote (edited )

fuck your industrial 'revolution'

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FULLCOMMUNIST wrote (edited )

Oh sure building hospitals, schools, and food production by and for the peoples of a formerly-colonized nation is sooooooo terrible, how awful, wow, so bad. I read your little essay btw, it's a bunch of anti-civ an-prim nonsense, I'm not arguing with you anymore lol have fun with your masturbatory internet politics and doing nothing for the oppressed.

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ziq wrote

licking stalin's boots doesn't = caring about the oppressed

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