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We now live in a nation where... (Chris Hedges) coinsh.red

Submitted by RedIsNowGreen in memer

“We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy the economy.”--Chris Hedges

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nov wrote

not a lot of lols here. not really a meme in my book.

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RedIsNowGreen wrote

By definition, a "meme" need not be humorous. In practice of course, many are. This one however, as you correctly observe, is not and was not so intended.

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nov wrote

this page is dedicated to humorous things as stated in sidebar. so this is not the right place for it.

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0w0 wrote

I don't think this quote is from Hedges and it implies that nation states created freedom in the past. It's an attribution by some authoritarian apologist.

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RedIsNowGreen wrote

Not so... Chris Hedges said it here:

https://youtu.be/86nrI7wvSg4?t=12m10s

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0w0 wrote

I stand corrected, I didn't know much about him before. However, I sill think that he is an authoritarian apologist. Even more after I investigated a little more about him and saw that he support Jill Stein and the Green Party. It doesn't matter how anarchist he think he is in my eyes he is just another useless liberal.

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ergdj5 wrote

Hey, to be fair, I support the US Green Party (but not Jill Stein). Some of the local federated branches are communalist in design. Helping to minimize suffering isn't incompatible with long-term revolution.

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0w0 wrote (edited )

I don't said that you shouldn't, it's my personal posture to not compromise with liberals. I think that the solution is in the workers organization and I know they are capable to do what I said if they have the will. The endless problem lays in how we make them realize of this. I'm very afraid that earth is out of time. :(

Edit: grammar

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0w0 wrote

Also I'm not from the United States, I'm from Latin America. I was detained several times during protests when I was young, I saw people being shot and killed. Here protesting and being repressed is the norm, some times by self described "lefties" goverments, so I have reasons to don't trust in liberals.

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RedIsNowGreen wrote

You can keep thinking that, or you can do more homework. You might start by researching the stand he and a brave few took against the Indefinite Detention provisions of NDAA 2012.

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0w0 wrote

LOL, I did my homework, and I really don't care about politicians and political parties. She said that "The government will be the employer of last resort, offering jobs meeting community-identified needs in the public and non-profit sectors to take up any slack in private-sector employment. A job guarantee is good for the private sector, as it ensures that domestic demand never collapses as much as it does in the current system, with chronically low wages and structural unemployment and underemployment." This is liberal nonsense, I'm anticapitalist and if she is not calling for the abolition of private property and the whole system of wage slavery I don't give a single fuck about she and her party.

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RedIsNowGreen wrote

I have no idea what "she" or what "party" you are talking about. Chris Hedges is a male and the NDAA 2012 Indefinite Detention issue transcends party politics - about which I don't give a "single f**k" either.

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lookin4 wrote

I believe, there were always destructiveness within every profession, at any time of human existence. Capitalism boosts that nowadays, yes, but this quote seems to implicate there are no more people alive and organizations existing that do important thoughts and activities to resist this likely trend. So the only possibility is to face that, give up, and be a observer for the rest of your life.

Which is not true! The quote may be out of context, but as presented, it is nothing more than also destructiveness. Because it is a shitty demotivating generalization which is not very clever, if Chris Hedges point is really to warn about the (maybe future) state of society and want to invite people to take part in the resistance.