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ziq OP wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted4371 in Usefulness by ziq

Yeah but probably not until they stop needing human workers to labor for them.

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ziq OP wrote

The point is capitalists know we can't survive on what they pay us as it is, and most capitalists think - if we had UBI why would we keep working for them?

Only a minority of capitalists think having the gov subsidize workers so they can get away with paying us starvation wages is a good idea

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

If that were the case, we'd already have it. But every time a UBI trial goes forward, they sabotage it to render it ineffective and then declare it a failure and cancel it. To me this reads like neoliberals warring with each other, with the anti-UBI crowd currently having the numbers to win. The pro-UBI crowd are a new breed of 'progressive' neolibs coming from the tech sector. They'll win eventually, but not until the old guard die out (and at that point automation will have replaced most human labor).

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