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sudo wrote (edited )

"Ultra-left" meme, or right-wing reactionary meme? Without knowing the OP, it'd be impossible to tell. Fuck outta here with this reactionary drivel.

Edit: Apparently the bottom text is supposed to be a response to the top text. That wasn't very clear.

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Dumai wrote

you realise the point of ziq's addition to the meme is that they actually want to sink the fucking yacht right

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ziq wrote

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Dumai wrote

i mean i think sudo's problem is that they totally didn't understand the original meme wasn't yours

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ziq wrote

knowing what they've said in the past about anarchists being useless arsonists and stuff, I doubt it.

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Dumai wrote (edited )

in that case the fact sudo said this could be an "ultra-left" meme would seem to suggest they think left-communism and anarchism are the same thing and tbh i really don't want to believe that even an ML could be that ignorant of radical politics

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ziq wrote

I mean, I'm clearly no ultra, so I just assumed they were calling me a rightwing reactionary.

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sudo wrote

And what is the yacht supposed to represent in this meme? Society? If anyone wants to destroy human society as a whole, then that person is so far gone that I have nothing to say to them.

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Dumai wrote

uh i think it's clearly supposed to be a symbol of wealth (because that's what a yacht is, where have u been) but if you want to read apocalyptic intent into a dumb internet meme and assign it to "ultra-leftists" of all people then have fun

just don't expect to make any friends like that

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sudo wrote

If that's what they intended, then it's not well communicated in the image at all. I assumed that the boat represented society, the person on the front of the boat represented the bourgeoisie, and the person on the back represented the proletariat. I assumed the meme was saying something along the lines of "socialists just want to make everyone equally poor", hence my criticism. But apparently this isn't an analogy at all, ziq literally just wants to sink some yachts. Okay then.

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Dumai wrote

oh

so i was right that you had no idea ziq wasn't just unironically posting the original meme then

but i mean if this is how you interpreted it:

"socialists just want to make everyone equally poor"

then the yacht represents wealth...? which would be well indicated by the fact it's a fucking yacht?

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sudo wrote

Oh, so the original was just a reactionary meme, and the text on the bottom was supposed to be an addendum to respond to the reactionary meme? Well, that was not clear at all.

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Dumai wrote

i thought it was kind of obvious? i mean i figured it out and it's not like ziq runs their memeing process by me before posting

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sudo wrote

It is now, since I know what to look for. But it wasn't at first. Most people don't pay much attention to the font and color of the text they're reading, and I wasn't when I was reading it, so it didn't register that the bottom text was supposed to be in response to the top text. I assumed ziq wrote the whole thing. The top part pissed me off, and the bottom part seemed like a non-sequitur. If they had put the bottom text outside of the original image, like on a white border, instead of putting it over the original image, then it might have been more intuitive that it was supposed to be a response.

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ziq wrote (edited )

And what is the yacht supposed to represent in this meme?

A yacht. Sink all the yachts. Sink all bourgie affluence.

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ziq wrote

Damn, if I knew sinking some bourgie's yacht would piss you off so much I would have done it months ago.