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GrimWillow wrote

Do you really think anarcho-primitivists are against work? What a load of shit.

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote (edited )

Anarcho-primitivists are against work, in the post-left anti-work sense, so far as I understand.

I'm surprised that's the part of the meme you take issue with!

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GrimWillow wrote

The way this comic is using the word, makes me think they intend to imply that anprims are lazy and avoiding putting any effort into labor.

"isn't organized labor still working?"

Many of the anprims I know are still willing to organize with others, and definitely not against performing labor. I feel as though that particular anti-work analysis is not present here because they're applying it to organized Anarcho-syndaclists' efforts in creating liberation and community. To me it screams a complete misunderstanding of the anti-work analysis, and misinterprets it as a general avoidance of labor.

Yea, there's problems with the other depictions too, but I picked the one that pissed me off the most. Also, been having a bad day in general and came to the internet pretty fucking pissed off...

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

Bad days suck! Hope the rest of the week treats you better.

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GrimWillow wrote

Thanks, I'm gonna get some sleep before I end up causing more drama than I intend...

Also, lately in my life, I have been swapping words like "shitty" or "not good" instead of "sucks" because when I thought about it, it seems to me that "sucks" derives from a homophobic notion. It's been tough though, because I have said "that sucks" my whole life, and continue to say it without thinking.

Ok, that's enough internet for me today...night...

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365degrees OP wrote

Settle down, it's just a meme.

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GrimWillow wrote (edited )

just a meme

Just a meme spreading harmful assumptions about anarcho-primitivists. All Anarchists get that weird work ethic stigma from capitalist apologists, and it never makes sense...why would it make sense now?

It's fucking stupid and shouldn't even be posted, asshole.

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ziq wrote (edited )

It makes sense when you realize these are all spoiled petulant rich kids in heavily colonized nations.

Bourgies all think this way. When they grow up to be CEOs and trustfund art school dropouts, they'll finally stop pretending to be anarchists and we won't have to deal with them any more.

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365degrees OP wrote

assumptions about anarcho-primitivists

yeah I know, how are they alive past 20?

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____deleted____ wrote

yeah I know, how are they alive past 20?

actually the life expectancy issues were due to infant mortality, most anprims living their lifestyle would probably live longer as long as they survived childhood

which is one major issue with their ideology, honestly, and we've evolved to be worse at surviving childhood as we rely on medicine more and more

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GrimWillow wrote

Ignorant fuck

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365degrees OP wrote

Maybe you should learn what shit will happen if you stupid primmies get your way.

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GrimWillow wrote

Considering how much ignorance you have in terms of understanding the philosophy of Green Anarchists, your reply is worthless.

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ziq wrote

stupid primmies

Y transhumanist so ableist?

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365degrees OP wrote

deciding the death of like a billion people is good praxis

what's wrong with that????????

stupid

now that's ableist

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365degrees OP wrote

That's hardly a reliable source. The only thing I could trust an anprim to do is sugarcoat the bullshittery they're going to get everyone in.

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____deleted____ wrote

i mean personally i wouldnt waste time reading an ideology id immediately dismiss

i havent read mein kampf but im not a fan of hitler; reading someones own books about the ideology is generally a waste of time unless you already have some interest in it

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____deleted____ wrote

oh yeah ive put basic reading into most things but if you tell me to read the book of, say, Lenin, ill tell you to eat my ass because ill never take leninism into consideration

at least reading the fuckin wikipedia page is important but reading entire books is a waste of time

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GrimWillow wrote

While I agree with you about not needing to read everything, I wouldn't condemn the person for it unless they started spreading misinfo about subjects they never read about...while maintaining an obstinate refusal to even acknowledge that it's misinfo when called on their shit by those who have actually read something...

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ziq wrote (edited )

Who have make this decision? I dont see them?

Correct answer: because transhumanist not anarchist. Transhumanist liberal capitalist, make bad ideology.

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____deleted____ wrote

jesus christ transhumanists and primmies are both anarchists

they can literally co-exist the point of anarchism is its all decentralized

i can go eat berries in bolivia or get a machine arm in california its not like one of the two has to be universally established

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ziq wrote (edited )

No that isn't the point of anarchism. The point of anarchism is to burn down hierachies. All hierarchies. Not reinforce them by calling e.g. capitalism anarchist / voluntary / libertarian (ancaps). Or the just as hierarchy-prone example you just used.

Warping anarchism to mean 'my bourgie hobbies' i.e. 'my glorious privilege' will be the death knell to anarchism.

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ziq wrote (edited )

Case in point: bitcoin is decentralized. And all it's done is allow the rich to buy lots of bitcoin and have yet another way to hoard their wealth and destroy the planet by burning fossil fuels.

Guess who came up with bitcoin? Ancaps. Can't wait to see what transhumanists come up with.

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ziq wrote

But me stupid primmie. You wise master of keyboard.

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