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raindropq wrote

i love roses! :)

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mofongo wrote (edited )

Nah, here they get praise and upvotes. Specially if they come here with an idea for a commune.

Edit: seeing again, it's actually true. Everyone pays them attention like they have something of value to say.

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Dumai wrote

once i saw a dude on reddit wondering why we haven't devised a "complete anarchist social model"

when i told him the reason was because it's practically unfeasible and not really the point of anarchism anyway he called me a "postmodernist"

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ziq wrote

Next time just direct them to the nearest tank depot and speed the process up.

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

I imagine that if we're not going to make anarchists of those people then we're probably going to have even more trouble with others.

As for me, probably the best thing I've done in the world was be a part of turning some liberals eager on anarchism into anarchists. Those people went on to be part of some really meaningful things and some of them have better politics than me now.

We can be mean about it and push them away, but there are other options, like being critical and kind and open to hearing their case.

We've also got to strike a balance between being welcoming of other ideologies and not, and aside from assholes I think it's worthwhile to try to make productive conversation with people we disagree with. Also since it's one of the best ways to get people actually writing things on this site.

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ziq wrote

If they have better politics than you how do you have the politics to recognize their politics are better?

:p

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Dumai wrote

i think it's easy to recognise that somebody's politics are better considered and more fleshed out than your own

i have similar sympathies and ideals as uri gordon for instance but i also know i have nowhere near the level of theoretical knowledge or practical experience as he does, so i'd have to say his politics are better than mine

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

Yeah this is pretty much how I would answer.

Also they're out in the world doing more, and with other people, all who are bringing their best skills to the table at the cutting edge of their politics. It doesn't mean I don't have some stuff better, but in general they do better, and affect the world more intensely.

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raindropq wrote (edited )

KEEP LOOKING UP MAYBE MORE INTERESTING THAN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD BRUTE OR STANDING AROUND