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ziq wrote

This is the best meme in the world, in case anyone was wondering.

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glokaya_kuzdra wrote

I actually downloaded this meme. Do you know how many times I have downloaded a meme? Once, now.

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p5rnyp5rny wrote

While I think Erdogan did a lot of bad things and I'm in no way suggesting otherwise, I think you're falling into the same trap that imperialists do which is create bogus conflicts (for example see how the French invented the pseudo-conflict between Arabs and Berbers when they were colonizing Morocco) based on meaningless categorizations.

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ziq wrote

Turkey is occupying the Kurdish territories in Syria and treating them like Turkish colonies while continuing to invade further inland. How is it a bogus conflict?

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p5rnyp5rny wrote

Turkey is occupying the Kurdish territories in Syria and treating them like Turkish colonies while continuing to invade further inland. How is it a bogus conflict?

That's absolutely not what I said. What I did say was a blanket label like "Kurdish" in such massively diverse land is bogus. Of course I condemn the war that is led by Turkey there, like any reasonable mind wuld do.

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____deleted____ wrote

Turkey is its own empire that has done the same thing, mind; they sparked conflict between the tribes in Arabia to ensure none would escape their grasp back during the Ottoman era. They're a strong economy and a strong military and are only one of the other imperialist forces in this world. Nevermind that Turkey is what made this categorization; in the 80s they made speaking Kurdish or having a Kurdish name illegal, and these days they still arrest many, many pro-Kurdish rights activists.

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glokaya_kuzdra wrote

If Erdogan represented an Arab identity, which may be what you are getting at, perhaps there is some way of interpreting this as advocating for pluralism and saying the Kurds and Arabs should work together as comrades, and this meme creates a divide.

But the context is that Erdogan represents the Turkish state which wants to cleanse the Kurds in a way that the Kurds do not want, and have not done with the democratic confederalist areas in northern Syria (though the situation is undoubtably tense between some Kurds and Arabs, especially where Arabs recently had unjustly taken land from the Kurds, etc. but still sit on that land).