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ziq wrote

Left unity in action

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MarxistKropotkinistVaush wrote

It's exactly how the left will defeat fascism, we might not have brute strength but we have unity.

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

we might not have brute strength

Pfft; speak for yourself, I'm strong as fuck.

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MarxistKropotkinistVaush wrote

Strength comes from solidarity, community, comradeship, NOT decadent individualism like body builders / anti civs.

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ziq wrote

wait wait wait wait - so after the revolution - gyms will be illegal?

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MarxistKropotkinistVaush wrote

Bodybuilding is a bourgeoisie activity. There's nothing wrong with keeping in shape (I play squash, personally), but there's no way you can claim bodybuilding isn't hyper-capitalist and wasteful.

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ziq wrote (edited )

hmm so all the bodybuilders and muscle gym workers lose their jobs after the revolution? doesn't sound very pro-worker, comrade

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

On a more important note; body builders rarely, if ever, use kettle-bells; body builders lift for form/aesthetic and kettlebells don't break the triple digits in terms of weight (using pounds here), making them inefficient for long term gains.

They also starve and dehydrate themselves to emphasize muscularity and/or have a very restrictive diet; so, in a way, they aren't really as strong they could be; but strength isn't their primary goal.

Powerlifters lift for strength, but don't use kettlebells either; they primarily deadlift, benchpress, and do (weighted) squats, but these exercises have bodyweight counterparts that one needs no weight equipment for, leading to the next thing.

And then there's just plain strength training; where someone uses physical exercise to build muscle; you can use equipment or go weightless and focus on calisthenics, isometrics, and/or plyometrics. Kettlebells are included here; and they're inexpensive, though I'd personally recommend dumbells as they're more versatile.

NOT decadent individualism like body builders / anti civs.

Body builders aren't even the individualist strawmen you're painting them as; disregarding proper gym etiquette is frown upon and they freely share information for improving gains with each other. Look up the concept of "spotter".

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

Strength comes from solidarity, community, comradeship

Yeah.

From the various bodily functions required to exercise.

How are you to use a kettlebell as an improvised weapon if you aren't strong enough to lift it?

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

Maybe we don't need the kettlebell?

Well...yeah?

You think I'd be using something I needed as a blunt instrument?

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MarxistKropotkinistVaush wrote

Why would you use it as a weapon? What are you talking about?

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

Why would you use it as a weapon?

I don't know any martial arts and you can't find big rocks anywhere where I'm at.

What are you talking about?

Property damage and harming police. The latter is always at the forefront of my mind.

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