Unintentional punk indeed...

But I get what John is heading at. It's the lack of statement in the aesthetics, and precisely bc of the nature of computers, the movement lack a social unity from the previous movements. You can see a hacker in the streets and they will not look like a hacker, and a person trying to cosplay a hacker will need a PC or gadgets to pull their impersonation.

It's a start, but this easily be confused with other big movement