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subrosa wrote

Wolf of Wall Street. Scott Pilgrim vs the World. Her.

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fewch wrote

i dunno the AI scarjo in Her leaves joker at the end so maybe incels would hate it? tough questions tbh, maybs that just deepens the elliot rodgernesss of their outlook

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Tecate_Coyote wrote

The bizarre thing is that these are all good films. To watch. But if you confuse these characters as rolemodels, you gotta reevaluate yourself.

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fewch wrote

all of them revolve around White Pathologized Outcast Fantasizing About Violence Directed By A Dude with the exception of American Psycho, which is still under the White Woman Pretense category, and even then you still get the Haunted Violent Guy Spiritually Self Immolates trope happening.

not one of these movies spends more than ten minutes on a viewpoint that challenges their POV character. they're interchangeable shlock for dweebs masquerading as morality plays while finding a convenient pearl-clutching excuse for the audience to passively participate in their protagonist's behavior.

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Tecate_Coyote wrote

Right, I totally get what you're saying. But I don't think it is mutually exclusive that these can be good movies and be, if I may quote you, "Outcast Fantasizing About Violence" masturbatory movies. Like junk food media almost.

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zoom_zip wrote

i like fight club :/

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moonlune wrote

I also liked taxi driver, american psycho and nightcrawler.

didn't like drive nor BR2049 thought.

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AmphibiousHippie wrote

Right its pretty good, but requires more than one viewing to achieve its full effect. This is part of what makes it harder to see some of its true themes and many never quite grasp the meta narrative. I think it also suffers from some of the same issues as American History X. They didnt seek to make a movie glorifying fascism but it gets easily twisted to do so and now is hard to separate from those people. How the movie when not viewed critically so easily becomes a stylized endorsement of the characters and their ideals and is even used as an introduction to them.

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fewch wrote (edited )

fight club sucks, palahniuk invented and defends the use of 'snowflake' as fashy fucks have used it, and fincher has made a career out of movies about glib outcast geniuses who manage to hoodwink the world and get everything they want despite being misunderstood

fight club is not misunderstood. fight club is garfield with stolen sunglasses on

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subrosa wrote

Same. Shows up in a very different collection though.

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AnarcheAmor wrote

You forgot "an instruction booklet on how to completely miss the point".

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