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SpiritOfTito wrote (edited )

I mean I'm all for popular fronts 'march separate, strike together' etc as well as firefighting (anti fascist activity).

Beyond that theres not really unity. The socialist experience was to throw internationalism out the window for national chauvinism and betray the working class for world war 1 then commit to parliamentariasm for the rest of the century while condemning any actual existing socialist states. The end result is neoliberalism and people looking back on the days when you could get a job at a factory for life with a decent pension as the 'good time's.

And Anarchists are the main left anti communists are the same; condemning every revolution that ever succeeded (while worshipping the ones that failed: Ie everyone involved was round up and shot) and peddlling anti-red bourgy crap that would make McCarthy blush with its blatant hysteria.

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SpiritOfTito wrote (edited )

I'm against gulags and think the repressions under Stalin were abhorrent.

How long until your next 'left' anti-communist insult using the existence of gulags as a stick to beat reds with?

"there is no alternative - any other system leads to the gulag!" Sounds like bourgie bullshit to me given how many communist states existed without them. Yugoslavia being one.

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SpiritOfTito wrote

When did I defend them? I didn't. So stop making shit up.

I don't remember saying this, mind showing me where?

It's implied in your comment you just made to me.

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SpiritOfTito wrote

Lmao you're an outright dishonest liar.

First comment I conclude with this

I don't dispute the atrocities that went on in various communist states. What I do dispute is the propagandised angle the capitalist nations take on them while neglecting to mention the constant war like state they were in due to capitalist nations attacking them repeatedly.

Second comment I say this

I don't celebrate the ussr. But I've nothing but contempt for the people who shit on it while ignoring or trivialising its achievements. Trying to build socialism in the face of the horrors of 1910s-1950s with what reality has given you and not by the standards of 21st century first worlders dreams.

third comment here

I don't like to say it cos Stalin was an evil ruthless shite but rather Stalin and his police state than an extermination of the slavs and unchecked nazi expansion

So where's the gulag apologia? Oh wait there is none.

I acknowledge the atrocities of the various really existing communist states however I take issue with the propagandised angle the capitalist countries have used to say there is no alternative.

That said and done with - go fuck yourself you lying, gaslighting arsehole.

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elyersio wrote

Damn, I wish there were bike lanes on the roads around here.

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