dele_ted wrote
Since so many people that i respect are disagreeing with me on this, I must be going wrong somewhere - but I can't see where. Here's how I'm interpreting all of this:
/u/c0mrade called for the systematic killing of all white people. I told them to get out, that we should stop grouping people based on something they're born with and not in control of altogether. T_W came to defend c0mrade, saying that i was wrong to not want the systematic slaughter of people based on their skin colour. A few hours later, c0mrade said their original comment was all just a joke, but T_W keeps defending it.
Why is it that everyone thinks i am in the wrong for not letting characteristics that you are born with, that are out of your control, have any say in who you are or how you should be treated?
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dele_ted wrote
As i said in the original thread, and multiple times in this thread, I didn't think c0mrade was joking. I also explained why in my response to Dumai.
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Fossidarity wrote
Can you elaborate on this? I'm starting a new post for this since it's off-topic.
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dele_ted wrote
I explained in the same thread that I didn't catch it as a joke. I've seen stuff like that thrown around here every now and then, and didn't get the sarcasm. Sarcasm isn't easy to get when it's in written form, mild aspergers makes it that much harder.
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dele_ted wrote
I replied to T_W from the inbox, and didn't see c0mrade's comment saying that they were joking until now.
I called it racism because that is what it is (if it's not interpreted as a joke). Racism means nothing more than discrimination or prejudice based on race. Of course racism against white people is practically non-existent, but it is nonetheless the definition of the word.
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dele_ted wrote
That's a simple matter of definitions. Words have different meanings in different parts of the world and in different communities, and in the case of "racism", as all of this proves, the differences can be pretty vast.
To me, the example you're giving is very clearly racism. I've never known anyone (IRL, that is) who understood the word racism as what you're describing. If that's what the word means to most people here, then I see why they're pissed at me - I would be, too. But please remember that we are not all the same, to me racism has always meant just what i described above. We are not some uniform mass, and I'm fucking glad we aren't.
Pop wrote
Your profile is six months old
how in that time you have maintained your racist definition of racism is something i'd b quite interested to learn
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dele_ted wrote
I'm not insisting on disagreeing on a simple word, it's just never occured to me that racism means something completely different in this community. I'll gladly adopt your definitions if it helps me communicate with other people here.
Thanks for taking your time to explain it, I've rewritten my definition of racism.
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dele_ted wrote
Of course i have. Some words have different meanings in different regions.
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my favorite joke is genocide
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jokes about genocide are overall out of bounds
Pop wrote
you know you can google why #alllivesmatter is shit, right?
why when people say #notallmen they are missing the point?
instead of acting dumfounded you can actually just go find out
it's like you're expecting people to spoonfeed you
There's probably a stack of articles on raddle about both...
Fossidarity wrote
Let's disregard if you actually said or meant those things for now, do you see the problems inherent in these movements (#AllLivesMatter, etc.)?
dele_ted wrote
Of course I do. #AllLivesMatter has appeared in respsonse to #BlackLivesMatter, which is problematic because there is very clear evidence that black lives seem to matter less in the face of law enforcement, government and a good deal of ordinary people. White people do not need to fight for their lives to matter, they already do; the #AllLivesMatter movement is absolutely meaningless, and i never defended it (quite the opposite).
My comment was in response to someone calling for the systematic killing of a people based on their skin color. Yeah, it was apparently a joke, but I didn't catch that (I explained why in my response to Dumai).
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