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____deleted____ wrote (edited )

I really feel like going for an immediate ban was far too much; all I was saying was that calling them bland and such is insulting, and judging based purely on something outside of their control and how they were born; we of all people should know better than that.

These are two very different stories, of course, as only one side has a history of and a continually ongoing oppression, but that doesn't excuse doing the opposite and judging immediately based on, again, something out of their control.

And giving an immediate ban for a trans woman whom has female and male partners and has in the past had NB partners is... a bit of an overstep, given I imagine I'm not a homophobe with that in mind.

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glitter_v0id wrote

but that doesn't excuse doing the opposite and judging immediately based on, again, something out of their control.

You have got to be kidding me that you think casually making fun of the straight pride flag is even remotely equatable to the shit queer people put up with on a daily basis.

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dele_ted OP wrote (edited )

The issue isn't mocking that absolutely stupid flag, and they weren't equating the two at all.

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____deleted____ wrote

I am trans and have boyfriends and girlfriends. I did not say it was equivalent. I said it was simply another form of judging based on things out of their control, and thus should be avoided. I was also referring to the article itself calling straight people bland.

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glitter_v0id wrote

you're saying punching up and punching down are equally bad.

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____deleted____ wrote

i just said that theyre not equivalent

that's not what im saying at all

im saying don't throw based on aspects they don't decide

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leftous moderator wrote (edited )

TW reversed the ban on you and dell. So hopefully you two can respond/explain in that thread now. Edit: Keep it in mediation

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote (edited )

The reason I wanted this to move to mediation was because I don't want this conversation happening in the lobby. Mediation is supposed to be a more forgiving space than others on this site and it's not clear to me that what's happening isn't a ToS violation, so I'd rather it was cleared up here in this context.

RIP sleep

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leftous wrote

I see what you mean. I still think they should have a chance to explain their posts if they feel they were misunderstood, though. Especially considering they are established good faith users. Anyone who comes across that will have an unfair view of them based on the outraged responses.

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

They did get a chance, in f/mediation, where their queerphobic opinions can get aired for resolution, instead of the safer-from-ToS-violations space that is the rest of raddle.

To be clear, I think even this apology is queerphobic. That's what I preempted when I opted to move it to mediation.

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dele_ted OP wrote

To be perfectly clear, I am not queerphobic, and i hold no queerphobic opinions. I don't get how you've come to that conclusion.

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____deleted____ wrote

Queerphobic? I am a pansexual transgirl with male and female partners. I would struggle to be more LGBT. I simply think nobody should be insulted for how they are born, not that it is equivalent.

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