I'm done with the left

Submitted by Raven in lobby

Officially this time. I also submitted a resignation letter to the IWW to request them remove all my personal info off their database. The left is full of bourgeoisie scums who can't nudge the shit they supposed to stand for, always brag about organizing but most members don't even want to lift their fingers on doing real shit like fighting for immigrants, indigenous and marginalized people. When you brought those issues up they just shrugged and pretend there will always be tomorrow for the actions. When you told them that you sabotaged some immigrant enforcement camp they call you too violence, or you will hurt innocent people, then citing that the movement growing bigger lol and 'we should wait' or "let's organize together" and they back to their bullshit. Also drama, the best thing the left best at is drama.

Bashing fash is useless af. Last demo at gay village the turnout was bad, and they spent most of time screaming at each other with megaphones. There is no progression in either side. Fash are winning the election, cops are upping their tactics, and the left stick to outdated tactics. It's a time bomb waiting to blow, and I'm not gonna be around when they round the left up into camp.

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KacperTheAnarchist wrote

Welcome to anarchy!

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afineblueberrymuffin wrote (edited )

Oh, the problems don't end at the 'left.' The reason the 'left' is so fucked is that a lot of people call themselves the 'left,' but they are anything but that... same goes for anarchists and any other ideology or way of life or whatever we're calling it these days.

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manc wrote

The reason the 'left' is so fucked is that a lot of people call themselves the 'left' but they are anything but that

Or maybe the reason the left is fucked is because leftist ideas are irrelevant in the 21st century? Who do you think are the 'real' left?

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Splinglebot wrote

Who do you think are the 'real' left?

me

everyone else is a pretender

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mofongo wrote (edited )

True, I hang among the left but I'm more oriented to the z plane.

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afineblueberrymuffin wrote (edited )

That's literally my point, but sure be an ass. It's all just a bunch of hot air.

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Dumai wrote

Bashing fash is useless af

i mean i'm all for mocking the left (and the post-left as well but that's an argument for another time) but this is a bit much don't you think

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Raven OP wrote

I wish they were bashing fash, at least effectively doing so. The fact that fascist groups get to come out once a month to face antifascists, and their numbers increased overtime, proving that bashing fash ain't working. I'm not going risk my brown ass to be arrested so some white antifa can do a photo-op. When they get arrested they get no charge, when we PoC get arrested we go to prison. Bashing fash is a white privilege.

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Dumai wrote (edited )

it doesn't necessarily surprise me that there'd be areas where antifa tactics aren't being used effectively, so don't get me wrong, it's totally understandable that you're not willing to risk your safety in cases where they may fail, especially as a person of colour

in the general case i'd argue antifa has been shown to be effective and i definitely feel much safer knowing there are people in my city who are ready to resort to violence in order to repel fascists, so i'd still say it's a bit strong to say it's useless presently but i definitely see where you're coming from now

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Glenarchist wrote

How nice to have the privilege to be able to step away from everything. ANY group of individuals will have issues, the larger the group the larger the chances of 'Drama'. Left or Right, infighting will always exist. This is how our species is these days. How about instead of whining and throwing your pacifier out of the pram you just do stuff and focus on that rather giving a shit about people you don't like. The world is in the 6th great extinction, you will not be able to hide or duck out of what is to come.

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Raven OP wrote

I'm a fuckin thief and im on the verge of being evicted. you call me privileged for not organizing? take a hike you joker.

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tellTaleHearts wrote (edited )

Hey, I get it. Nobody has actually sat down and explained SHIT, they just throw book titles at us, and shame us for being too busy SURVIVING to read them. I'm trying to get folks to break it down into more worker-friendly bites.

But as for everything else - we have to have victories for morale. I don't like leaving Climate Change protests and Indigenous Rights movements to the useless freaking Liberals either.

Its frustrating as hell. I'm trying to organize my workplace, and the "comrades" who even address me that way? Don't act like it. They don't join in. They don't wanna risk anything. They don't wanna go against the grain. They're scared, and don't even wanna commit to acknowledging being scared.

They want something concrete, already made, already a team without them having to build it - MOTHERFUCKERS, WE'RE ALREADY A TEAM THE WAY WE WORK TOGETHER. But when I say "fuck it, I'm a one man Union, and even Management can know it" AND I KEEP MY FUCKING JOB getting Gains for Everyone, nobody fucking bothers.

I cant afford to cross my country to join where I really feel needs the most help. And now that I'm actually trying to get shit together here, NOBODY FUCKING WANTS IN? I followed the damn manuals, the training. I'm winning victories here for the team, and nobody cares enough to join in so we can scale up.

Fuck it. And honestly? Aside from the way the following attitude is useless? FUCK THEM TOO. I'ma keep doing me. If anyone else wants to join, cool. If not, I'm not convinced I have to care.

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afineblueberrymuffin wrote (edited )

Take your own advice.

Also:

How nice to have the privilege to be able to step away from everything.

What are you talking about? Are you implying the Left is the end all of anti-capitalist and anti-statist thought and action (or lack thereof).

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Splinglebot wrote

What are you talking about? Are you implying the Left is the end all of anti-capitalist and anti-statist thought and action (or lack thereof).

yes, most people seem to think this - at least most people on the left do. Not being left means you're pro-capitalist by definition in their mind

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ziq wrote

Being a 'leftist' won't do anything to avert collapse so I don't think rejecting the left is a privilege. We need to reject the left if we're going to do anarchy. The left only stands in the way, rendering anything we try to do ineffective with its toxic groupthink bureaucracy, work-fetishism and authority-formation.

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manc wrote

with its toxic groupthink bureaucracy, work-fetishism and authority-formation.

Don't forget the romanticising of bygone eras, like the Russian revolution, or the Spanish civil war, or the poll tax riots, or anything that happened before we were born. Everything was better in the good old days.

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ziq wrote (edited )

same goes for future utopias and future technologies

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manc wrote

Once again you underestimate how awesome life is going to be when you are a memory stick.

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ziq wrote

Don't tech-shame me you fucking primmie. I have every right to evolve beyond the limitations of this disgusting meatsack. The cloud is eternal life. A place in the cloud is every human's divine right.

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ziq wrote

Except for reactionaries. They get transferred to floppy disks and buried in a land fill.

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