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KacperTheAnarchist wrote

Welcome to anarchy!

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shanc wrote

The reason the 'left' is so fucked is that a lot of people call themselves the 'left' but they are anything but that

Or maybe the reason the left is fucked is because leftist ideas are irrelevant in the 21st century? Who do you think are the 'real' left?

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Splinglebot wrote

Who do you think are the 'real' left?

me

everyone else is a pretender

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mofongo wrote (edited )

True, I hang among the left but I'm more oriented to the z plane.

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Dumai wrote

Bashing fash is useless af

i mean i'm all for mocking the left (and the post-left as well but that's an argument for another time) but this is a bit much don't you think

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Dumai wrote (edited )

it doesn't necessarily surprise me that there'd be areas where antifa tactics aren't being used effectively, so don't get me wrong, it's totally understandable that you're not willing to risk your safety in cases where they may fail, especially as a person of colour

in the general case i'd argue antifa has been shown to be effective and i definitely feel much safer knowing there are people in my city who are ready to resort to violence in order to repel fascists, so i'd still say it's a bit strong to say it's useless presently but i definitely see where you're coming from now

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Glenarchist wrote

How nice to have the privilege to be able to step away from everything. ANY group of individuals will have issues, the larger the group the larger the chances of 'Drama'. Left or Right, infighting will always exist. This is how our species is these days. How about instead of whining and throwing your pacifier out of the pram you just do stuff and focus on that rather giving a shit about people you don't like. The world is in the 6th great extinction, you will not be able to hide or duck out of what is to come.

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tellTaleHearts wrote (edited )

Hey, I get it. Nobody has actually sat down and explained SHIT, they just throw book titles at us, and shame us for being too busy SURVIVING to read them. I'm trying to get folks to break it down into more worker-friendly bites.

But as for everything else - we have to have victories for morale. I don't like leaving Climate Change protests and Indigenous Rights movements to the useless freaking Liberals either.

Its frustrating as hell. I'm trying to organize my workplace, and the "comrades" who even address me that way? Don't act like it. They don't join in. They don't wanna risk anything. They don't wanna go against the grain. They're scared, and don't even wanna commit to acknowledging being scared.

They want something concrete, already made, already a team without them having to build it - MOTHERFUCKERS, WE'RE ALREADY A TEAM THE WAY WE WORK TOGETHER. But when I say "fuck it, I'm a one man Union, and even Management can know it" AND I KEEP MY FUCKING JOB getting Gains for Everyone, nobody fucking bothers.

I cant afford to cross my country to join where I really feel needs the most help. And now that I'm actually trying to get shit together here, NOBODY FUCKING WANTS IN? I followed the damn manuals, the training. I'm winning victories here for the team, and nobody cares enough to join in so we can scale up.

Fuck it. And honestly? Aside from the way the following attitude is useless? FUCK THEM TOO. I'ma keep doing me. If anyone else wants to join, cool. If not, I'm not convinced I have to care.

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ziq wrote

Being a 'leftist' won't do anything to avert collapse so I don't think rejecting the left is a privilege. We need to reject the left if we're going to do anarchy. The left only stands in the way, rendering anything we try to do ineffective with its toxic groupthink bureaucracy, work-fetishism and authority-formation.

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shanc wrote

with its toxic groupthink bureaucracy, work-fetishism and authority-formation.

Don't forget the romanticising of bygone eras, like the Russian revolution, or the Spanish civil war, or the poll tax riots, or anything that happened before we were born. Everything was better in the good old days.

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ziq wrote (edited )

same goes for future utopias and future technologies

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shanc wrote

Once again you underestimate how awesome life is going to be when you are a memory stick.

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ziq wrote

Don't tech-shame me you fucking primmie. I have every right to evolve beyond the limitations of this disgusting meatsack. The cloud is eternal life. A place in the cloud is every human's divine right.

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ziq wrote

Except for reactionaries. They get transferred to floppy disks and buried in a land fill.

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Splinglebot wrote

What are you talking about? Are you implying the Left is the end all of anti-capitalist and anti-statist thought and action (or lack thereof).

yes, most people seem to think this - at least most people on the left do. Not being left means you're pro-capitalist by definition in their mind

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