Dissecting trolls for our enjoyment and learning

Submitted by Tequila_Wolf in lobby (edited )

I think we're all going to gain a lot of skills in learning to identify trolls.

Hi, I'm new to this site but I've been hanging around for the past few days. At first, it was very cool, but I started to see nazis post porn and hate speech. How long is this going to last? Can we fight back in any way? Like maybe post the same stuff back to their places? I'm willing to help out in any way possible.

Troll analysis:
"At first, it was pretty cool, but" He's simultaneously trying to make a narrative of and taking credit for 'making it uncool'

"hate speech" - this person is liberal at best - hardly going to think we're "pretty cool". Either way, they have a hackneyed idea of what we believe in.

"how long is this going to last?" Meaningless question, coming either from a 10-year-old or a troll. Since a ten-year-old would probably be saying different things in the rest of the message, leaves us with one option.

"Like maybe post the same stuff back to their places?" None of us would agree to this given the content of their posts, but presumably a troll is stupid enough to think that some might, and that would put us on their level? Again, this person has no idea of our politics. Also, super-vague "their places" is telling.

"I'm willing to help out in any way possible." In short, trying to appear sympathetic as bait.

From here. Other observations, here and elsewhere, are welcome.


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surreal wrote

we need a "know your troll" wiki entry or forum


Chomskyist wrote

Are you volunteering to put it together?


surreal wrote (edited )

i could but i don't have the experience, never been a heavy reddit user to be able to recognise them quickly.


ziq wrote

This would make a fascinating research study.


Alcoholic wrote

They are coming from 8chan and 4chan /pol/ specifically. I am not one of them but I do lurk.


Alcoholic wrote

Also for those of you on mobile use the app omnichan if you want to monitor them.


vacuousaptitude wrote

Why do you think using the phrase hate speech indicates someone is liberal at best?

I like the concept I'm just curious about this point.


Tequila_Wolf wrote (edited )

The short answer is that 'hate speech' is a legal term.

Slightly longer answer is to say that 'hate speech' is an invented legal term made in order to bracket out the portion of 'free speech' that is not allowed. It's all part of the language of a specific set of democratic (i.e. state-capitalist) ideologies, of which liberals are the most left-leaning, so; liberal at best.