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n_n wrote (edited )

What do you think you're doing by harassing a mental disable? You really seems to like to abuse vulnerable people, you are disgusting.

I'm nor defending nor promoting nothing, I suggested a word based in the sources that I presented and those who you presented doesn't contradict what I already said, that the original meaning was not ableist and there is not something accepted that is ableist since different dictionaries had different definitions, those that you presented focus in the modern definitions of words since they focus in the practical meaning of word with it’s use in sentence. A suggestion is a proposal, I proposed a word according to my limited knowledge, you can take it or not. So as I said you can suggest other word but both of you didn't, why?

Click "Parent" a few times on your comment.

I clicked parent to the my first comment and I don't see stacking anyone for using an ableist slur. You just want to bully me. So go and fuck your self. I'm under a lot in real life and my mind can't deal with this shit.

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ziq wrote (edited )

You attacked someone for telling you the word you proposed was also ableist. You showed that you don't actually care about questioning ableist language by refusing to accept that your alternative word is also ableist.

I'm not "bullying" you. If I don't speak up when someone is being toxic like this, then I'm part of the problem. I'm sick of everyone ragequitting the site because of the toxic atmosphere and vicious attacks over minor disagreements.

You told someone not to use a word because it's abeist, told them to use another word. They told you that word was ableist also. So you attacked them, refused to accept it was ableist, linked them to less-developed definitions to try and silence them and now are calling me a bully and accusing me of "harassing a mentally disable" for linking you to more developed definitions.

This shows it's a petty power game for you, labeling anyone that has a slight disagreement with you a bigot and a bully to try and get the upper hand. It's toxic.

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n_n wrote (edited )

You are lying again and keep harasing me despite that I told you that I want to be left alone. You are a fucking bully piece of shit. I'm not feeling well mentally and you keep attacking and misrepresenting me.

You attacked someone for telling you the word you proposed was also ableist.

I didn't attack anyone for that, I asked why they give me an unsolicited advice, I had the feeling that it was condescending and I was correct according with their response, they are who attacked me for not take well their unsolicited opinion. At any moment I said that it's not ableist, I said that it's was not its original meaning, I meant "contemptible" and any other word that means the same would work. I didn't knew it as an ableist word and there were not sources presented by Cluster. I said that if it is problematic both of you could suggested other word but you didn't. Again why? Because you don't give a fuck about disable people or challenge ableist language. You are even defending the use of the word "moron", an eugenic term in other post.

more developed definitions.

? You said "I showed you other authoritative dictionaries that clearly equate it with ableism". I show you authorative dictionaries that clearly don't, so there is not something accepted yet. Why your sources are more authoratives that mine? How are more "developed? Who is trying to silence who? Your sources doesn't cancel mines nor contradict nothing that I already stated, as I said. You are inventing things because you are a fucking piece of shit that want to smear me.

I'm under a lot of mental suffering right now and you keep harass me despite of it. This is not the first time that you do this, so you are a fucking bully. Go fuck yourself.

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ziq wrote (edited )

I never defended the use of the word 'moron'. I just told a troll that no one called them a 'moron'. I waited 8 days to reply so please don't accuse me of bullying you again.

Why your sources are more authoratives that mine?

The point is that no sources are authoritative. Placing value on a list of synonyms in a dictionary is a mistake. Synonyms are replacements for words. Not every synonym for an ableist word has an ableist history. Words like shithead can easily be considered ableist if used to denigrate someone's intelligence. But they can also be used as a generic insult like 'dickhead'. It depends on context and intent.

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n_n wrote (edited )

My mental health is in bad shape right now so I won't going to talk with anybody in the internet until I feel better.

Edit: u/Ziq, just to clarify my mental health is deteriorating because things that are happening to me outside of the internet.

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