meo wrote on May 26, 2019 at 12:52 AM

Reply to comment by GaldraChevaliere in Is Ace exclusion against TOS? by mofongo

I'm a trans woman and literally already said in another reply that I don't trust cis queers. So, as far as I can tell, most of your reply doesn't even make any sense.

As far as your claim that ace people face no oppression from cisheteropatriarchy: even a cursory glance at the wiki article hermit_dragon linked and the sources it links to could lead you to ace people talking about the discrimination they've faced — some of which sounds a whole of a hell lot like discrimination because they are ace. Instead you chose to be very angry online, so that's cool.

In my opinion, ignoring the fact that a lot of people really dislike ace people, and that they could easily become another a target for reactionaries as knowledge of their existence becomes more widespread, is kind of irresponsible. There's no reason to not stand with ace people now, as they already deal with some pretty bad discrimination and it could get worse.

Also, I just want to reiterate, I do not trust cis queers (unless they prove themselves to be trustworthy). I'm sure plenty of cis ace people hold some horrible opinions about other queer people, same as cis gays (and even some trans people, sadly). However, that doesn't magically erase the fact that acephobia exists.

GaldraChevaliere wrote on May 26, 2019 at 2:37 AM

So a wikipedia article is an authorative subject on queer issues and whether or not ace people are involved with them?

I have every reason not to stand with ace cishets because I have every reason not to stand with allo cishets. Acephobia isn't any kind of structural thing, it doesn't exist outside of "allo" LGBT folk not liking you very much because of your constant puritan moral grandstanding and cooption of lgbt causes. Come back when you lose your house over being ace.

meo wrote on May 26, 2019 at 3:36 AM

So a wikipedia article is an authorative subject on queer issues and whether or not ace people are involved with them?

I said nothing like that? I merely said a brief look at the article and the sources it links to would lead you to ace people talking about the discrimination they've faced. Having looked through this thread more closely though it seems if you saw any of those examples you'd just say it's solely about misogyny, because apparently it's impossible for people to be discriminated against for multiple reasons.

Acephobia isn't any kind of structural thing, it doesn't exist outside of "allo" LGBT folk not liking you very much because of your constant puritan moral grandstanding and cooption of lgbt causes.

I don't think I'm going to bother responding after this. If you're really going to be adamant that acephobia doesn't exist, it doesn't seem like anything I have to say is going to have any affect on you. Also, in regards to the scare quotes around allo: are you suggesting ace people's identities aren't even real? Allo is literally just the opposite of ace, if you think allo isn't a proper term that seems to be what you're suggesting.