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ziq wrote

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Who is jeffrey epstein?

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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

I don't know how reliable the accusations are, but Epstein was caught soliciting a 14 year old for sex. He also has a private jet that has flown many VIPs many times, including Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. The accusation is that his jet was a flying child prostitution service called the Lolita Express, and guests could rape underage people in the air over international waters where nobody has jurisdiction to investigate or prosecute.

So depending upon who you ask, either Epstein has undue influence because he can blackmail lots of powerful figures. Or maybe he's just evidence every upper level politician and oligarch is pure evil. (Which is true, but he may have nothing to do with it.)

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symbiosis_architect wrote

are you serious?

like really, are you being sarcastic?

I do not joke about this shit

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ziq wrote

I'm not an American, why would I know that?

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symbiosis_architect wrote

because of the internet, information is global and rather than simply go to wikipedia or some such you asked me to explain the history of the world to date rather than do the effort

because it is a huge news story

and because you didn't respond to the main points of what i pm'd you about, the contents of which you could either say 'hey i dont believe this' or anything, but to pretend it did not happen calls my trust of you and this site into question

you do know, thats what fucking cointelpro does now, make fake new tech alt sites like steemit, bait people to spilling their guts, put it in their file, then eventually, some day, quietly close the site censoring whatever people had said

Peace, Abundance, Liberty radio on discord, yeah that's cops too. All free speech traps.

If you are not actual police yourself ziq, then right now they are planning to befriend you, join the admin team, get the passwords, make the site a mess, then it will get shut down.

Refusal to acknowledge this will be all I need to know, choose your next words carefully.

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ziq wrote

I didn't respond because you're a complete stranger unloading a lot of stuff on me and I don't know how to respond to any of it. It's also really hard to read a wall of text when it's a png file.

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symbiosis_architect wrote

you can use the enlarge feature

if you put it in your brain and think about it, then you will get some ideas on how to respond to it

but if you throw it in the trash and pretend it didn't happen, then we can't be friends

I'm a symbiosis architect and that's how symbiosis gets built, we consider each others ideas and discuss them based on their merits.

I know, radical.

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symbiosis_architect wrote

I am trying to elevate discussion, people who are asking dumb questions, non sequitors, labeling ideas with cliches and then bailing, these are all what forum trolls do when they want to make it look like a site has a lot of activity when it does not.

I challenge every person I interact with to constructive discussion, and people who come for destructive discussion are either unintelligent and should be quiet, or are there to prevent constructive discussion.

This is 2019 why I am I having to explain this to any anarchist or socialist over 10 years old is beyond me, or makes me suspicious that you are into destructive discussion.

They cannot get me because I have family who would be able to bail me out, and that would lead to the eventual unravelling of their zersetzung program. People who could mount a legal defense or whose death/accident would be investigated are in a different category from the people they can just frame.

They have to discredit me, ruin my life, then no one will believe what I say.

Also they have not got me already because I am not a criminal and I'm not 'up to' anything, I don't want to be a gang leader or cult leader or che etc. so I just walk through their bait setups and entrapments.

A person who is actually decent and hard working is the one that is most difficult for zersetzung agents to handle, most people can just be ruined with gambling, meth, sex crimes or slander. Most women can be seduced because they can so easily use your file to establish a pretext to know you, and then either assault you or be your long term disruptive boyfriend.

You don't start out trusting someone, by their fruits ye shall know them, holds up over time.

I have a vast trove of anti-authoritarian writing across decades on multiple platforms I could show you if you called me to the carpet. Plays, performance, music, and I have a family that can prove where I was in my early twenties, which all of the spooks can't because they were in the military/police.

And I am telling you, there is a vast undercover program that manipulates people's social media, craigslist and dating websitse to set all manner of left wing activists up. All music festivals are basically operated by the fbi and they also distribute fake mushrooms and acid. They will also start a job where you work, and then get you fired. They will mess with your car, your apartment, everything, to make you ineffective as an activist.

And yes, soldiers on military bases come to sites like this, or build sites like this, as a form of 'defending america' through propaganda and Total Information Awareness.

Steemit is such a site. I am in the process of determining the nature of this one, and so far it looks like another cop shop.

I am giving you the keys to protect yourself, I am not going to stop until they stop doing this weak douchebag bullshit and calling it freedom.

Basically if the bad guys aren't chasing you yet and no one is trying to censor you, then perhaps you should consider the possibility that you aren't doing jack shit and have been effectively pacified and silenced because the movement you are a part of has already been coopted into controlled opposition.

Thanks for asking at least some basic questions, but still you should make note that these are well within the safe 'get maximum information with revealing minimum while casting aspersions' that I experienced so much on reddit I could teach a class on how to do it.

For example, if you are an agent here to obfuscate, your next line of questions will completely ignore my major assertions, and personally attack me for some kind of attitude problem, or any number of cliches that boil down to, "who do you think you are"

I am important, you should listen to me becaue it I have sacrificed to acquire critical information on why the United States is becoming a nightmare tyranny, and if you want to stop it the same old shit is not going to cut it. Otherwise enjoy the colorful prison they have built for you and stop pretending you are doing something by writing on the internet.

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ziq wrote

It's only weird to you because you're attached to the USA's propaganda, Dumai. What will it take, the US gov outright announcing they take their orders from Jeffrey Epstein before you'll consider it a plausible theory? So closed minded and judgemental.

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symbiosis_architect wrote

only cops and ignorant people even use the phrase conspiracy theory

you may notice that the entire world is trying to get to the bottom of the conspiracy between trump and russia, so to outright dismiss conspiracy theories like it's 1964 is extremely stupid.

sometimes when people write, they use license, and use some individuals to represent classes of people.

and sometimes when writers do this, people who want to f with the forum come and pretend they don't get it and ask stupid questions

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heckthepolice2 wrote

Look, there are conspiracy theories that make sense. There are also many that do not.

Like, yeah, the feds almost certainly killed MLK. But somehow I'm not super certain that this one random banker is singlehandedly running the entire US government or is even like a significant fraction of the interest running the government. (The government may be run by rich assholes, but there are enough rich assholes that most of the individual rich assholes aren't like, running the entire show or whatever)

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symbiosis_architect wrote

Another pointless distraction comment, I did not mean he personally controls the whole thing, but people like him control the whole thing and get free reign with their perversions. It is only in rare, rare cases where they fuck up extremely badly where we get to see behind the curtain, and that's why Epstein is a paradigm case.

So if the best thing you have to say about this whole situation is the above comment, I wonder why you bother writing at all because you have nothing to say.

And that is not random, he's someone who trafficked 13 year old women from Mar A Lago, the presidents pad, and flies around with Bill Clinton on private jets.

It is so tiring explaining the world to people who were born yesterday

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symbiosis_architect wrote

dude 2019 is wierd, catch up.

are you really dismissing ideas because they are not normal enough for you?

Jeffrey Epstein represents the global elite of bankers and other bullshit occupations, and I am telling the united states military that they are at the moment controlled by these people who also happen to legally traffic children for their sick desires.

Do you think the active duty service men and women and trans people enjoy knowing that they are working to maintain a global order run by totally depraved people?

If Epstein and his ilk snapped a finger, the entire u.s. national debt could be called in and the pentagon audited, do they consider that good national defense?

These are not wierd theories, this is the version of the world the facts most support.

i.e. the u.s. military is not in africa to protect people in montana from terrorism, it is there to secure the interest of corporations and the unlimited economic growth paradigm upon which the cancer of global capitalism depends.

the next thing you say better be like 10x more intelligent than the first two responses or im blocking you

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symbiosis_architect wrote (edited )

really, no thinking people use the phrase conspiracy theory, it just proves you haven't escaped the brainwashing from the teevee that disallows you from using critical thinking to use econ 101 methodology like Structural Functionalism.

Categorizing all attempts to theorize who might be making backroom deals in the world is a form of virtual lobotomization, and it will probably take you a few years to reverse those affects and truly start thinking for yourself.

I didn't say anything about a jewish new world order, so that would be the second non-productive distraction you have thrown into the conversation.

The next thing you say to me should be a lot more intelligent or I will block you and suggest you go back to reddit where pointless circlejerks are encouraged.

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