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We're being brigaded by nazis with too much time on their hands

Submitted by ziq admin in lobby (edited )

Sorry about all the trolls, they know enough to use Tor so banning doesn't work, but they're incredibly easy to spot so we'll delete their posts as quick as we can. It's best not to engage them.

-trigger warnings obv-

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evilsjw wrote

"This is why we need to keep them away from Voat."

When you're self-absorbed enough to think you have to tell leftists to stay away from their precious nazi website...

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adhdferret wrote

I am going to agree with you here.

I have been on Voat for over 3 years. It is important you get to voice your mind. I wish you would go there. I am unsure how the metrics work here, but I am getting a severe negative score so I am sure it will hinder me from making replies.

I just don't understand the need for violence to accomplish what you want. Also the admin telling me he wants me to get robbed.

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evilsjw wrote

It's so kind of you to invite me to debate with your nazi friends.

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adhdferret wrote

Not a debate....a way for us to understand you. Possibly explain ourselves to you as well.

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evilsjw wrote

Thank god, finally a nazi that is willing to explain his ideology to me!

Nobody here is even slightly interested in whatever you're suggesting, just fuck off and go back to where you came from.

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adhdferret wrote

Well my Hope is that you will explain yours to me.

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mofongo wrote

All right, there is this book called "The conquest of bread", you can start with that.

If you want something shorter, then read "Value, price and profit".

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adhdferret wrote

So lemme get this right.

You based morality off a book instead of life experience? So much for independent thought and yay to group think.

Before you go there no I am not religious.

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mofongo wrote

My communism is not based on morality but based upon my lived experience within this system and expanded upon the analysis and cririques of many theorists.

My morality is based upon upbringing, family life, economic life, lived experience, and reading about morality, ethics and sociology.

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MrPim wrote

You could maybe explain it yourself. I mean I dont have those books at hand. So a discussion is where you explain your POV and I reply. And if youve read and understand those books, you should be able to summarize them.

So, can you discuss things?

Forgive me in advance if I may seem a little harsh in my language. Goats play no shit and we give each other every shade of blue hell. Polite is rude where I come from

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go1dfish wrote

Voat is not entirely made up of Nazi's

Voat has no top down direction for the content of the site, the main overriding goal is as absolute freedom of speech as can be managed legally on clearnet web forum.

Voat was a growing, much more diverse and overall friendly community in the time before Reddit started banning troll/hate subs.

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evilsjw wrote

I'm aware of that, I know what Voat is and how it came about. However adhrferret's first post reads "every experience I have had with people of color (black variety) has ended in disaster" so I'm very much assuming he belongs to the fascist portion of that website...

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adhdferret wrote

Got a question admin.

I have been checking your new feed on all for a while now and it seems you average a submission every 15 to 20 minutes.

I am wondering how many accounts have been created that are active within the community.

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ziq wrote (edited )

We don't give out any data about our users, privacy is our #1 priority.

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an_whale wrote

Someone posted a link to Raddit on r/conspiracy...

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aiwendil wrote

Troll comments: "It's not that I am racist, but every ______ I have come in contact with is bad."

I'd really like to thank the admins here for all your work helping to keep these shitheads out.

I'm sorry you guys have so much work to do here banning these fuckers. I am based out of the US, so there are obvious problems with me helping out, but if there is anything I can do aside from the obvious "don't feed the trolls," please let me know. Maybe we could implement something where you have to request a certain refferer header or something in order to use Tor here. That way anybody abusing it can easily be blocked. I think that is a pretty good compromise.

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adhdferret wrote

Oh I won't deny your titles you issue if that is the way you feel you don't display racism yourselves.

I am here because I honestly do not understand how you can be all live and let live. You see crime statistics? Or whatever other metric you want to go by?

Look at Chicago alone. Yet you call me the bad guy because I see it. I say something about it?

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mofongo wrote

You're missing the forest for the trees. The issue is primarily economic.

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adhdferret wrote

Is it really? Take the poorest Mexican area or the poorest other minority you want and compare to black of the same size and see if the numbers are the same.

Within the USA.

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ziq admin wrote (edited )

Okay, this site is starting to look like r/the_donald with you spouting this tiresome bullshit... white supremacy is specifically against the ToS so you're b& now. Don't come back please.

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mofongo wrote

Your idea would make the use of tor useless because someone could track users using those headers.

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aiwendil wrote (edited )

That actually isn't true. Essentially, when you log in to this site you are given a cookie to indicate to the backend that you are logged in. All the system I am thinking of would do is create another cookie that says your browser is authorized to use the website with tor and tie that to a valid email address. That address could be through something like 10minutemail or guerilla mail, thus not identifying any more than just logging in. The backend of this website can already track the actions of a user, as can all websites, but there is really no additional information being passed to the website. The website is just taking advantage of already trackable information that is non-identifying to make it much more impractical to spam. You would have to go through a registration process for each spam account you wanted to create that would make it much less efficient to do so. For the casual reader that doesn't want to have their browsing tracked while not logged in as this would ideally be implemented just for those user that wish to log in and participate while using tor.

Just so you know: Any website you visit using tor can already determine you are using tor. Any website you log into is storing some kind of session cookie in your browser.

With those two tidbits it is possible to create a non-identifying system that makes it easier to block abusive accounts, by simply invalidating their tor cookie and making them re-apply for one.

From this sites perspective the only thing tor obscures is your originating IP address. Once you log in any action you take on the website can be correlated to your browser through your session cookie, so adding an additional session cookie would not in any way reveal your IP address. In order to protect yourself it is important that you pick a username that doesn't identify you and use an email that doesn't identify you and you will still be fine. Tor is designed to protect you even from the sites that do a ton of tracking, of which raddit doesn't really seem like one of them.

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adhdferret wrote

I am a long standing member of Voat (same user name) and I can tell you now it is unlikely they are "brigading" your site. If you look into it a bit more you will see that they are curious as to the behavior here.

Hopefully you read this before you just delete it. I am not here to piss you off or your subscribers. I am confused as to why you feel that Voat is the big bad wolf. Really we are not.

See the core base you may find as racist, but every experience I have had with people of color (black variety) has ended in disaster. Had my apt burn to the ground due to their negligence.

Been attacked and even robbed at gunpoint on Father's day! I can go on, but my views are my own on this matter. This is your house and your rules, but I can assure you that you won't have your account banned on Voat where as I am sure it will be here or at the very least my comment deleted.

We don't do that on Voat and when a mod does we go after them and eventually they are removed. Is that how it works here?

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ziq wrote (edited )

We're banning these people because they're posting images of a woman lying dead on the street while mocking her, and talking about killing jews, f****ts and ***gers in random threads. If you think that's acceptable then let's hope you get robbed at gunpoint some more.

No one gives a fuck about voat.

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revolgin wrote

Just found this site from Reddit and figured I'd check it out. I don't know anything about Voat other than it's another Reddit clone like this, and I've heard that the people there are mostly right-leaning (not my cup of tea).

I really don't like seeing talk about killing jews, nor homophobic/racist or any other hateful stuff. That said, I don't wish anyone to get robbed at gunpoint regardless of my take on what they say.

This thread says you're an admin so I might as well ask while I'm writing to you - what is the basis of this site? Is there an "about" page or anything? What is your stance on free speech and censorship and how does this site regard such?

Thanks! Site is looking good so far, I wish you the best.

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ziq wrote

It's a site for plotting the white extinction.

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revolgin wrote

... I'm not sure if you're serious or if you're trolling me because I said I don't like seeing racist/hateful stuff. If you're trolling me then I think you won LOL

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adhdferret wrote

You hope I get robbed at gunpoint? So you support criminal behavior and even wish it on others you don't like?

I mean why don't you do it.....you sound as if you are prepared to die for your cause. Me I don't want to die for my ideals. I would prefer to live long enough that I see them to the end.

That is the difference between you and I.

I came here to explain this to you and I didn't wish you any harm. I was even respectful with the pronoun use. Yet you wish harm on me...... Odd how it is the people I associate with are the bad guys.

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ziq wrote

You hope I get robbed at gunpoint?

With all my heart.

So you support criminal behavior

Looks like.

and even wish it on others you don't like?

Apparently...

I mean why don't you do it.....

You don't have anything I want.

you sound as if you are prepared to die for your cause.

Because I wished a racist would get his crap stolen? K.

Me I don't want to die for my ideals. I would prefer to live long enough that I see them to the end.

That's the point when I'd like to die. When you've shaped the world in your repulsive image.

That is the difference between you and I.

Nah, pretty sure the difference is I have a personality, guy.

I came here to explain this to you and I didn't wish you any harm. I was even respectful with the pronoun use. Yet you wish harm on me...... Odd how it is the people I associate with are the bad guys.

Robbing your white ass would only harm the hero robber who had to smell you piss yourself.

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adhdferret wrote

Ok well you want an echo chamber to fulfill some morbid need to be acceptable somewhere. We all need to have worth so at least you have that going for you.

As I said my views are my own, and I don't expect you to understand them. I hope you don't and not for your sake but your offspring, because you have lots of hate inside you got something.

Your reply as to why you wouldn't rob me is telling.

"You don't have anything I want."

So you feel theft is the way to aquire what you want? I mean I work for things. Well not currently as I am recovering from an injury sustained at work. Thing is that I paid for the sort term disability and unemployment that I am receiving now.

Well will be shortly. Never have I found it appropriate to steal stuff from someone else.

Well I am going to look around and see more about this place. Don't worry either as I will follow your rules.

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ziq wrote (edited )

If this were an echo chamber, you'd be banned already.

Don't be so fragile all the time, it's embarrassing.

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evilsjw wrote

"I am not here to piss you off or your subscribers [...] every experience I have had with people of color (black variety) has ended in disaster"

I'm not here to piss you off or something but you're extremely bad at not being a racist piece of shit

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adhdferret wrote

Because I relay my own reasons for the mindset I have?

Tell me something. If every person you knew was actually a racist, but helped you when you needed it would you still hate them?

Thing is that I don't hate blacks. I just avoid them as much as I can. It is a learned behavior as I haven't had a good experience with them to date.

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evilsjw wrote

"If every person you knew was actually a racist, but helped you when you needed it would you still hate them?"

Uhm, yeah I'd still hate them... not sure what your point is with that question.

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adhdferret wrote

If you hate them why accept their help?

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mofongo wrote

Because I need it? Not everything is black and white (lol) you know?

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adhdferret wrote

No I don't know nor do I understand why you would accept help from someone you don't share the same values with. Seems shady and underhanded.