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ziq wrote

https://raddle.me/wiki/free_speech

Do participate in any "free speech" platforms?

Oh, you mean white nationalist echo chambers like gab and voat? No.

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NAB OP wrote (edited )

firstly, no I do not really mean like voat, because voat is not a free speech platform, it is a platform that pretends to be free speech while similtaniouly using rate limiting to get rid of opposition. As for gab, they have censored stuff from time to time due to other powers breathing down their back, but I still dont think they are a good free speech platform due to the fact they give a rats ass about privacy and cave to government quickly.

Admittidly no platform where you are truly free to speak exists other than the dark web simply because of the fact copyrights exist and child porn is illegal ( I personaly think it should be illegal, but admittidly this is in contridiction to any total freedom to speak).

I suppose the real question should be then, do you believe in total freedom to speak? Should an individual be allowed to say whatever they want? Should I be allowed to express myself in any artistic way I want? Should I be free to take and distribute any idea? And should I be able to do all this without punishment than would infringe on my human rights, which are not granted by the government but are a give in?

I mean I suppose the closest I realisticly mean to a free speech platform would be somthing like notabug.io, Dtube, Steem, or the likes. Stuff made to be hard if not impossible to censor totaly, and made from an unbiased standpoint for the most part.

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ziq wrote

People can say whatever they want and they can face the consequences of that. Giving them a circle of cops to prevent a natural response to their hate-filled rhetoric is the problem. If people want to stand in a public space and yell 'gas all jews' then they should deal with the consequences of that instead of crying victim and hiding behind the white supremacist state as they say it.

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NAB OP wrote

Can that not work against you too though? Because what if you were to say “down with whiteness” in a public space, and you faced a violent responce? Should you not be protected from such violence for voiceing that opinion?

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ziq wrote

No. I don't need the state to fight my battles for me. That's the difference between anarchists and fascists.

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NAB OP wrote

so you are saying that even if a fashist mowed down your entire family, you would not go to the cops even if they could surly take care of the problem for you?

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RosaReborn wrote

How did free speech conversation turn into a family homicide?

If fascists try to stop my speech by whatever means, they will be confronted. Their 'free speech' is already an attack on me and people close to me so why should they not be confronted then?

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ziq wrote

I'd buy a gun.

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NAB OP wrote

but then you create the issue of just tradeing an enmie for another. Now the state is after you, when you could of just turned the state lose on the criminal like a rabid dog.

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ziq wrote (edited )

The state doesn't work for me. I have no interest in adding workers to their prisons.

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NAB OP wrote

neither does a stray rabid dog, but if you throw a piece of meat at your target it will for a moment.

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elegantti wrote

Or, given its rabid, it just bites you instead anyway, just like the state would.

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ziq wrote

The state doesn't work for me, it works for the rich. Anything they do will be in the interests of the rich, not me or my family.

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MHC wrote

{People can say whatever they want and they can face the consequences of that. Giving them a circle of cops to prevent a natural response to their hate-filled rhetoric is the problem.}

Indeed the Cambodian Maoists invited the teachers to get on stage and express what was wrong with the state. Then the former trucked the latter into forest, and machine-gunned them!

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MHC wrote

{I mean I suppose the closest I realisticly mean to a free speech platform would be somthing like notabug.io, Dtube, Steem, or the likes.}

I'd appreciate URLs for those.

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ziq wrote

Something wrong with your search engine?

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MHC wrote

There's no need to be rude. I often have limited time when posting here. And others seem familiar with jargon that I'm not across!

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MHC wrote

{Oh, you mean white nationalist echo chambers like gab and voat?}

What's "gab"?

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