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sudo wrote

I like the fact that's is a dumping ground for a small group of friends I have online to share shit. It may not be what the site was originally envisioned to be but it's what it is now and why I'm there.

That's my point exactly. To the best of my knowledge, the site was originally supposed to be just like the reddit fempire, but not hosted on reddit. I'm not saying thefempire.org needs to change; I'm saying I don't want raddit to turn into a dumping ground for a tiny group of people.

Seeing this post was like someone observing a small town theatre group and loudly declare "Here is my list of reasons why these people utterly fail to compete with the output of Warner Bros Studios!" It's absurd on the face of it, hence why I reacted with mockery.

You'd be justified in doing so, if that's what I was saying. What I'm saying is that it didn't live up to what it was originally envisioned to be, which was (IIRC) a carbon copy of the fempire, so I was suggesting methods for raddit to live up to its goal, which is to be a carbon copy of the leftist subreddits.

Also the bit about liberals seemed like such a non sequitur.

I only included that because the site is focused on feminism, but a non-negligible portion of feminists are also communists, who would like to talk about feminism and communism. But they can't do that if the rest of the users are liberals. I'm well aware that thefempire.org wasn't intended to be a communist site.

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StudentRadical wrote

That's my point exactly. To the best of my knowledge, the site was originally supposed to be just like the reddit fempire, but not hosted on reddit. I'm not saying thefempire.org needs to change; I'm saying I don't want raddit to turn into a dumping ground for a tiny group of people.

This is a bit mistaken. The copying part people were interested in was the general format and user interface of Reddit, like threaded comment sections, front page, various sorts, no avatars subscriptions and so on. It was a common feeling that the platform was neat but the Masters were awful. But becoming an alternative to Reddit or even few thousand users was never a serious goal and in fact at one point we had a PhpBB board. TF.org is not like the Feminist Voat in anysense.

Having a place to hang out without Redditry was the most important goal all along, which I suspect also contributed to seeming unpoliticality of the site as it now exists. Many users who wanted a new place were themselves grown weary or frustrated with /r/shitredditsays and /r/srsdiscussion and doxxxes and leaks had had an effect on morale, making us lose contact with many members of the community and contributed to the feeling of walking on eggshells.

The activism portion we had going on back then was trying to get the Reddit side administration to behave, like at all, by contacting media organizations about /r/jailbait, white supremacist subreddits and so on.

I only included that because the site is focused on feminism, but a non-negligible portion of feminists are also communists, who would like to talk about feminism and communism. But they can't do that if the rest of the users are liberals. I'm well aware that thefempire.org wasn't intended to be a communist site.

TBH I don't see what the issue is here. If feminists do one thing, it's debating amongst themselves. The bigger issue is the size of the userbase and its focus rather than it being too liberal. Truth to be told, I prefer arguing in places where there isn't that much of an consensus, but that's just me. Some of the places least amenable for discussion like /r/samharris, /r/jordanpeterson and /r/atheism encourage habits that stifle critical discussion. But it similarities also let pursue projects deeper.