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365degrees wrote (edited )

Do you downvote anticiv try to get public sympathy and postleft memes blame victims because your privilege / virtuousness senses are tingling? your memes and other content really sucks and no one is interested in being harrased and name-called, even though it's apparently to change people's minds?

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ziq wrote

VICTIMS

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ziq wrote (edited )

It's so great how you accuse me of harassing and namecalling you when it's exactly what you and your ilk do to anyone with solider politics than yourself.

No, unlike you and your comrades, my memes aren't personal attacks against specific people. They're critiques of ideology.

But keep crying victim whenever I make anticiv and postleft memes, it's a good look and pushes more and more people away from the spiteful moralizing groupthink rageculture that plagues the left..

One more thing,

VICTIMS

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365degrees wrote

We don't mind your ideology for the most part, we have problems with you instead. Your "memes" are atrocious and down right insulting.

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ziq wrote (edited )

We don't mind your ideology

hahahahahaha

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

we have problems with you

always 'we' like you're a hive of shitty ideologues instead of just one.

oh, wait..

Your "memes" are atrocious and down right insulting.

insulting harmful ideologies with amazing memes = awesome. your reaction = fuel for 10 more amazing memes.

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ziq wrote

The leftist moralists are in self preservation mode. They feel themselves going extinct.

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buzz wrote

ziq your memes aren't good! when you made the sonic and eggman memes, they are not organic enough. refer to the yoshi commits tax fraud meme or something

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ziq wrote

That meme has no political message, it's just a harmless joke. I like jokes that make people mash the downvote button as fast as they can because their worldview is being questioned.

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buzz wrote

left memes that splice some dialectic in them are better tbh

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Zzzxxxyyy wrote (edited )

I guess it’s not clear to me what the point of up/down votes are. I assume it means I agree/don’t agree, but don’t really have enough cares to comment. Why take that personally?

I don’t really dig postleft as a label. And to me if we’re not for human rights and the environment(moralism), what are we for? I suppose I don’t believe morals are any deeper than a common agreement to avoid harm to others by action or inaction. Sometimes, that means you have to choose between lesser evils.

Also, the only logical anticiv endgame is elimination of the human race. Without civilization you can’t enforce your anticiv ideology. I’m not into mass murder or forced sterilization. Rewilding just isn’t radical enough on its own to call it anticiv.

So, I when disagree with your views I might downvote. Generally, I find I up vote, down vote, or no vote your stuff 10/80/10 respectively.

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ziq wrote (edited )

I'm not taking it personally.. The point of this thread is to ask why people take memes personally and feel the need to silence them. Idk why anyone downvotes OC.

Also, the only logical anticiv endgame is elimination of the human race. Without civilization you can’t enforce your anticiv ideology.

that doesn't make much sense. Humans don't = civilization. Read the piece I posted to f/anticiv today about the origins of civilization. And while you're at it, the piece in f/anarchism about the failures of moralism.

Giving a shit about the environment (i.e. our habitat) isn't moralism.

However, the moment the critique of morality is raised, even in Anarchy magazine, there are always those who pop up with the aim to confuse things (in order to defend their own moralistic commitments) by claiming in one form or another that there is no such thing as a non-moral human value! Most people, in common with dictionary definitions, would never say that a person expressing her or his own desires with no claim to transcendental status for them is being moral by valuing a particular goal. But the defenders of morality will come out of the woodwork to claim that even the most finite, ephemeral and contingent human desire indicates the existence of a moral system every bit as real as those taught by the various branches of the Catholic Church!

To avoid this intentional confusionism wrought by those afraid of any criticism directed at their own sacred cows, people pursuing critiques of morality usually attempt to make a clear distinction between ethics and morality. In this case, ethics is considered to be concerned with finite, non-fetishized values, while morality is concerned with fetishized, transcendental values: right and wrong or good and bad. Unfortunately, since there is almost no radical and substantial criticism of morality in our popular culture (as opposed to the mountains of superficial and insubstantial, partial criticisms of morality), appeals by moralists to dictionary definitions of “ethics” often derail such attempts. (Most dictionary definitions in an alienated, moralistic society will be unlikely reflect the possibility that a dichotomy between fetishized and nonfetishized values could even exist. For most people consistently nonfetishized values simply aren’t considered possible).

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Yunlunuae wrote

I mean, much like your view on civilization, they were straight garbage.

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sudo wrote

Perhaps consider that we simply disagree with them.

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mofongo wrote

I don't vote.

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ziq wrote

You refuse to enable any hierarchy.

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zombie_berkman wrote

Voting legitimizes the outcome and process. I would have thought youd understand that but you are just an edgelord

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ziq wrote

Who shat in your sushi?

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zombie_berkman wrote

Do you always have to reuse the same 5 insults? Its like how you keep reposting the same shitty sonic maymay that doesn't even make sense. I guess you spent all your creativity on making alt accounts

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ziq wrote (edited )

Not an insult. A response to one.

What doesn't make sense? He's anticiv af. Point of the game is destroy industry and rewild the land / creatures.

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zombie_berkman wrote

The point of the game is ti free an enslaved population from a megalomaniac

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ziq wrote

..who turns the world into an industrial wasteland

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zombie_berkman wrote

Today I learned you support slavery and destroying the earth.

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amongstclouds wrote

That's quite a broad leap, but you've shown countless times before that you love to talk directly out of your ass.

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ziq wrote

And if you're so morally excellent shouldn't you be less driven by spite?

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leftous wrote

I downvote all zek posts. Moralist memes >> nihilistic garbage

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

Have you read Desert yet? We're doing it this week for the reading club, it'd be super interesting for you to participate.

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leftous wrote

Cool, I'll check it out

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

Great! We're just doing up to section 5 for the week, and I think discussion starts Friday if you can manage it.

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ConquestOfToast wrote

What's this reading group and were do I join?

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zombie_berkman wrote

Posting in yet another troll thread

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ziq wrote (edited )

Is this your way of saying you downvote everything you deem a 'troll'? So anything that refuses to parrot your personal worldview?

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zombie_berkman wrote

Yet you downvoted me.. the sole downvote in this thread as of.the time posting. You truely are one of the worlds shittiest trolls

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amongstclouds wrote (edited )

That was me actually. But since you're convinced I'm ziq it doesn't really matter.

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ziq wrote (edited )

I didn't downvote you and I never claimed to be a morally righteous supreme leftist so I can spite downvote all I want. I won't tho. I like ridiculous arguments to be seen.