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amongstclouds wrote

I don't think you are any of these things, but I do think you're taking these jokes to seriously. I make jokes about yt all day long and I'm white. I'm trans and will make fun of the cis so long as I am unable to feel safe in most spaces because part of these jokes help to take the power of oppressors away.

You cannot be racist against white people. You may be looking for the word prejudice, which doesn't take into account the power held by the oppressor themselves.

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amongstclouds wrote (edited )

Though I disagree with the class war claim. This is a social war. The destruction of Capitalism in no way guarantees liberation for anyone, and this is something that needs to be seriously considered in the fight against exploitation.

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dele_ted wrote

As i explained to Belsima, that came off horribly black-and-white. I probably should have either not mentioned it, or went very in-depth with it. I'll edit it out. I don't want to ignore these issues or put them in the back-seat at all, quite the opposite. I do think that class is the number one priority, but that doesn't mean social issues should be ignored at all - and just like that, we are all so different.

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md_ wrote

I do think that class is the number one priority, but that doesn't mean social issues should be ignored at all - and just like that, we are all so different.

Implied in that is that only one thing can be top priority at a time. This premise is false. We can work on more than one issue at the time, and as a matter of fact, we do.

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DokiDokiLove wrote

Lol, you can be racist to anyone of any race.

To link it to some pyramid of perceived power is so stupid. For one, there is no racial power pyramid. For two, what happens in the middle of your "can't be racist pyramid of power?"

Let's say for arguments sake, it's White

Japanese

Brazilian

Slav

Indian

So by your measure, Slavs cannot be racist towards Japanese or Brazilians.

And how do you sort the 'black' races in this pyramid? (Note plural)

It makes no sense. Racism is racism and it's ugly.

And just in case you get confused, feel free to tell me where the Jewish race sits in your power pyramid.

Is a Japanese Nazi, calling for Jewish genocide, not racist now?

If a white Nazi, perceives the Jew's to have power over him (which they often do), then by your logic, his hatred and bigotry towards the Jewish race, is not racism.

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DokiDokiLove wrote

Lol, you can be racist to anyone of any race.

To link it to some pyramid of perceived power is so stupid. For one, there is no racial power pyramid. For two, what happens in the middle of your "can't be racist pyramid of power?"

Let's say for arguments sake, it's White

Japanese

Brazilian

Slav

Indian

So by your measure, Slavs cannot be racist towards Japanese or Brazilians.

And how do you sort the 'black' races in this pyramid? (Note plural)

It makes no sense. Racism is racism and it's ugly.

And just in case you get confused, feel free to tell me where the Jewish race sits in your power pyramid.

Is a Japanese Nazi, calling for Jewish genocide, not racist now?

If a white Nazi, perceives the Jew's to have power over him (which they often do), then by your logic, his hatred and bigotry towards the Jewish race, is not racism.

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DokiDokiLove wrote

Lol, you can be racist to anyone of any race.

To link it to some pyramid of perceived power is so stupid. For one, there is no racial power pyramid. For two, what happens in the middle of your "can't be racist pyramid of power?"

Let's say for arguments sake, it's White

Japanese

Brazilian

Slav

Indian

So by your measure, Slavs cannot be racist towards Japanese or Brazilians.

And how do you sort the 'black' races in this pyramid? (Note plural)

It makes no sense. Racism is racism and it's ugly.

And just in case you get confused, feel free to tell me where the Jewish race sits in your power pyramid.

Is a Japanese Nazi, calling for Jewish genocide, not racist now?

If a white Nazi, perceives the Jew's to have power over him (which they often do), then by your logic, his hatred and bigotry towards the Jewish race, is not racism.