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So I've been away for a while, just caught up on all the drama, ziq - do yourself a favor and stay away from these pettyass posers

Submitted by ___deleted______ in lobby

This shit is pain to read, people.

Waaah my sacred ideology is being poked full of holes by an anarchist who is hiding their real identity like some kind of a masked criminal! Democracy aint real?! Ban the rude man from the site! Delete all my data!!

Wtf wtf.

We're fucking anarchists, will you act like it? Is everyone here a sheltered white kid or what?

I'm so disappointed right now.

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leftous wrote

The thing is that it's really hard to build a community by being an asshole, and you're not likely to convince left wing allies doing that.

It makes sense to be more patient and reasonable.

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___deleted______ wrote

Motherfucker was AFRAID to act themself, had to use alts because y'all expect them to be some kind of ambassador of divine communism when they aint even a communist.

No, this aint anarchy, this some high school level popularity contest. Punishing someone for not sticking to some bullshit code of conduct you wrote in your head? For telling it like it is to a bunch of spoiled middle class white kids?

Any place you have to be constantly 'convincing' the crowd to be your 'leftwing allies' is no place for anarchy. Nah, fuck that noise.

build a community

It's now glaringly obvious at least 50% of this site was ziq working their ass off to get more ungrateful shitlords to come over... That had to have been some fucking hard work to keep that up for a good year and a half, starting most of the conversations, posting half the articles... Every. Single. Day. Building a community is right, comrade leftous. And y'all done tore it down.

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leftous wrote (edited )

Motherfucker was AFRAID to act themself, had to use alts because y'all expect them to be some kind of ambassador of divine communism when they aint even a communist.

I agree that it was bullshit they couldnt share their anticiv positions under their admin account. I think we all understood that though.

Punishing someone for not sticking to some bullshit code of conduct you wrote in your head? For telling it like it is to a bunch of spoiled middle class white kids?

There's a difference between sharing your opinion, and continuously trolling someone who has asked you to leave them alone several times. I believe we should afford people that agency to choose who they want to associate with as long as there is no blocking mechanism.

Any place you have to be constantly 'convincing' the crowd to be your 'leftwing allies' is no place for anarchy. Nah, fuck that noise.

I don't know how you expect this site to grow or to "spread anarchy" if we alienate every good, well-intentioned person by attacking them. It is poor tactically. Do you see how you got annoyed that no one tried to engage your post and take your ideas seriously? They just downvoted and disregarded it, and threw your post aside as a worthless trolling attempt.

Also this site isn't supposed to be exclusively for strict anarchists. The hope is that we can draw in the average progressive and show them the radical ways.

I appreciate ziqs hardwork, but it's easy to see where their* trolling tactics failed.

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___deleted______ wrote

There's a difference between sharing your opinion, and continuously trolling someone who has asked you to leave them alone several times.

I refuse to engage with your malicious disinfo. This aint the first time I've seen you specifically doing this shit either.

What y'all did here is a fucking travesty. It's made me lose what little faith i had left in the 'left' as a vector for revolutionary change. It's a damned shame zik couldn't keep holding back the identity shit-deluge of anarcho-computer-nerds and soviet-fetishists that destroy everything in its path.

Yeah. It's fitting that zik should be replaced as admin by someone going by 'leftous'.

What a shitshow. The left is a fuck.

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4t0m wrote

Are there even 157 users to downvote this?

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___deleted______ wrote (edited )

This here person is the worst of all the shit that plagues this site. I sincerely hope they receive a good beating to wipe that shiteating grin away.

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bea wrote (edited )

I'm curious, what do you get out of being an asshole? Is this making you happy, being mean to users who are just trying to enjoy sharing an online space with other leftists?

e: also you need cut it out. Don't treat them like this just for pointing out all the shit you've been pulling off.

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365degrees wrote

Hey hey, don't call my datefriend that when you — yes you Ziq — are the sole reason this shitshow exists.

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___deleted______ wrote

Fuck off cointelpro.

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365degrees wrote

Fight me.

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___deleted______ wrote

I make a point of not punching out pissy high school kids.

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365degrees wrote

You seem like the kind to do everything else to them.

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___deleted______ wrote

I generally don't associate with any kids that aint my own.

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365degrees wrote

You don't have any.

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___deleted______ wrote

sorry forgot I'm ziq because your little tankie clique says so

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365degrees wrote

I'm not a tankie.

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___deleted______ wrote

Remember when you compiled a long ass list of every instance of Defasher using the word 'tankie' as evidence that Defasher was a troll?

Tankie.

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365degrees wrote

Here's the thing: I care about my friends more than I do about petty politics. "Tankies" so happen to be my friends. Do you know what a friend is?

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___deleted______ wrote (edited )

Your friends are all shit.

I don't personally befriend people that want to kill me but you be you.

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365degrees wrote

That's it, I'm getting the broom. You're half badger or something, aren't you?

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365degrees wrote

Anarchism doesn't mean you be rude to everyone else. It's not attractive (in any meaning of the word), it's petty and mutually detracting.

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___deleted______ wrote (edited )

Lol @ your weak strawman getting upvoted there. zik's politics are a lot more evolved than 'be rude to everyone else'.

They weren't even rude to no one that weren't deserving of it. Tankies trying to ban all disagreement, transhumanists being straight up racist... Y'all need to stop working at rewriting history. Anyone with half decent politics can see zik was just trying to keep raddle from being destroyed by authoritarians like happens every time an anarchist makes anything.

Your politics are encumbered by naive notions of morality, reason and democracy that only lead to ancoms being controlled like puppets by sinister fucks that will stab y'all in the back the moment they get enough control.

Stop the maoist witch hunts, stop the demands for respectability politics and embrace actual fucking anarchy.

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365degrees wrote

Yes, I'm no_fun_allowed, and I call myself a transhumanist. I'm not a racist or naive because of that -- I was taught a lot by a friend who some of Raddle might know I really miss now.

Lashing out and calling people "genocide enablers" and "eugenicists" with no good reason isn't very much of an argument.

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___deleted______ wrote

What did you say to get called that and by whom? Show actual context instead of muddying the waters with your malicious obfuscation.

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365degrees wrote

It's deleted now, I can't.

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___deleted______ wrote

Much bullshit

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ziq wrote

Nofun told me to delete all their post history. Every thread on the nettle forum was started by them. They abandoned the forum and edited the sidebar to say so. Empty forums get deleted even if they hadn't told me to delete the forum, which they did. I did not delete most of defasher's messages but my messages are my fucking messages to delete if I want to.

Lying fucking weasel eat shit and die.

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Dumai wrote

Lashing out and calling people "genocide enablers" and "eugenicists" with no good reason isn't very much of an argument.

maybe transhumanists ought to stop doing exactly this to anyone who disagrees with them then

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365degrees wrote

I haven't seen such a thing.

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Dumai wrote

have you never noticed that transhumanists love calling primitivists genocide supporters

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365degrees wrote

Well, it's true.

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Dumai wrote

the way you're totally unaware of the irony is astounding

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365degrees wrote

Here's the difference: I've been very quiet about it until Ziq started attacking me.

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___deleted______ wrote

what was that you said about ziq flinging insults earlier?

LEL

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mofongo wrote

Let's not start this again please. It was all past water; ziq was invited back. Why bring it back?

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___deleted______ wrote (edited )

Unresolved shit needs to get sorted specifically re: the shiningwing clique and their abusive tactics vs ziq and their retaliation using different abusive tactics.

ziq has taken all the blame but they were only reacting to dangerous elements already present on the site.

These 3 kids need to take responsibility for their actions instead of villainizing ziq as their one-sided 'harasser'.

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noordinaryspider wrote

Please pardon me for intruding: I'm not the sharpest tack in the box, nor have I ever claimed to be, and I simply do not have the time or the brainpower right now to think of a better place to put something I want to keep out of the way where people won't be constantly tripping over it and hurting themselves.

Nobody really wants my opinion. I understand that. I'm dealing with it the best way I know how but I see things you can't see and I know that they could hurt you so I want to get your attention.

The more you ignore me, the more obnoxious I get because I genuinely believe that I can see something that you can't and that the something could hurt you.

I see a unique individual being herded down a path they don't want to walk on. The person may or may not have the information available to know that Paul Bunyon and Chuck Norris already went down that road and didn't find anything valuable there, or at least not anything valuable to this singular unique individual.

Chuck Norris is an old man. He doesn't want to be a modern-day Paul Bunyon, he just wants you to appreciate the movies he already made for you.

Ziq is a raddler. They don't want to be King of Raddle and they aren't even a mod any more so they can't fix my problems.

They are a very interesting, intelligent, and kind cyberfriend. I'm really glad I met them. I am going to start saying "a moderator" when I mean a moderator and "ziq" when I mean a singular unique individual who is interesting, intelligent, kind, and has hopes and dreams and plans for the future just like everybody else.

I wonder what the future holds in store for me even though nobody else on the face of this Raddle probably even gave it enough of a thought to think about whether they have enough fucks left to give.

I'm sure you'll see it splattered all over the front page unless you don't.

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___deleted______ wrote

The real clincher is this joker thinking zik need to 'seek help' for cracking jokes about some garbage politics.

I never got just how much identity politics is poison til I read all this faux outrage and witch-hunt character assasination.

People, transhumanism just some dopey ass scifi politics, not a religion.

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dele_ted wrote (edited )

Why do you keep calling them zik? Their username is ziq.

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dele_ted wrote

Probably. Consistently spelling something as simple as that wrong is a pretty clear warning sign.

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jadedctrl wrote

I don't mean to sound paranoid… but isn't it too clear a warning sign? `o`

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leftous wrote (edited )

It was confirmed as ziq, they were just trolling as usual.

The issue now is that if they doesnt believe in this project anymore, we probably need to find an alternative since they still own everything. >_>

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jadedctrl wrote (edited )

It was confirmed as ziq, he was just trolling as usual.

I missed the confirmation, where was it? ;`:

we probably need to find an alternative since he still owns everything.

I guess a new domain and host (non-US/UK) are in order, TBH…
any respected & good community member up to the task?

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leftous wrote

Tequila called them out for it.

I'm not sure who would be willing. :/

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dele_ted wrote

I thought ziq offered the domain to the administrators recently, but noone would take it? Maybe he'd still be willing to give it away, so we don't have to buy new domains and rebase everything.

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leftous wrote

No one was willing to take it on, and seems like he's overly bitter at this point

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dele_ted wrote

Why not? I know I'm not a moderator, and T_W doesn't like me, but if there's no one else then I might be able to find some cash and extra time to host and maintain. I really wouldn't like it since that would mean i couldn't pay for hosting Konsent, though, but I'd rather have that than see Raddle go down thanks to ziq and their bullshit.

Ziq's bitterness might be a good good thing too, because it uncovers all their puppets. They're just jumping from alt to alt, stirring up shit and then deleting it.

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leftous wrote

Not sure what's going on, and I'm really sick of the bullshit going on here.

I would be willing to help with funds, my only problem is having my ID attached to anything since things are getting pretty surveillance state-ish where I live. Might make sense to regroup on reddit or mastadon, then figure something out, I guess.

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___deleted______ wrote

Keep downvoting folks it's a good look. This is some petty ass high school bullshit.