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Pop wrote

Yes

I don't think that's a counter except more support

for the point that capitalists, even the ubercapitalists, get massive state support, and are not some all-powerful entity of capital that may so easily do away with state funding

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ntm wrote

I see this often used within libertarian/capitalist circles to bash Elon Musk, but I also get the feel that it's just a proxy for the liberal purported environmentalism that he appeals to.

Anti-environment libertarians attack Elon Musk for not being a Howard Roark, while turning a blind eye to subsidies (either direct or legislative via lobbying) and government benefits that other billionaires get (probably because they have a steady diet of Koch propaganda).