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sudo wrote

So you convert a few liberals to your wishful ideology and they convert a few others. Meanwhile, 99% of the country remains wilfully ignorant just as long as they get to drive their gas guzzling cars and suck down those brews.

I'm not talking about converting a few liberals. I'm talking about converting the majority of the population.

Americans will never mount a communist revolution.

Don't confuse difficult with impossible.

They'll only sabotage others' attempts to do so.

You mean their government will.

Revolution can only come from the third world.

That's where it's most likely to happen, not the only place where it can happen.

Placating American imperialists will result in exactly nothing.

The only true imperialists are those in power. The masses have been tricked into believing in imperialism, but they can be cured of this.

Americans are not fit to fight for freedom. They've no desire to even learn what freedom is.

As of now. That's why American communists have to educate, agitate, and organize their fellow workers. They have a more difficult job to do, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. If an American communist looks at the task ahead of them and gives up, then that's defeatism.

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DeathToAmerica wrote (edited )

The majority of the population would sooner see you shot for threatening the status quo than join you. The propaganda from the state is too embedded in their skulls. Their self interests are too dependent on the success of their military's genocides. Only downtrodden outsiders that can barely keep a roof over our heads are willing to embrace dangerous thinking like communism.

Their idea of revolution is for Bernie/Hilary to give them more benefits or for Trump to build a wall. That's as far as 99.9% of those wretched souls are willing to go.

The only militias being formed are far right. They're the only people that have the numbers and the will to swarm the king's castle. To make things worse. The American left was wiped out nearly a century ago.

Americans are a lost cause. Their labor and tributes prop up the most violent totalitarian empire in history. They willingly prop up an institution that slaughters children for oil and calls it liberty. The inaction of the people is deliberate. They couldn't care less what their gov does to the rest of the world. They only protest when their own blood-soaked privileges are threatened. The cries of brown children buried under rubble don't even register to their ears.

America is the problem. It's complete collapse is the only chance the rest of the world has for survival.

Luckily, that new tax plan has just ended the empire's reign. It's only a matter of time before the bricks begin to twitch now.

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________deleted wrote

You're basically hoping the American people will suffer. That's fucked up. Hoping we all lose what little we have and not be able to rise up in this world because academia has been defunded? Screw you buddy.

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DeathToAmerica wrote

Every American's success fuels genocide. All your things, all your rights, are paid for with blood.

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sudo wrote

What part of "The people aren't responsible for the crimes of their government" don't you understand?

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DeathToAmerica wrote

The paper trail shows otherwise.

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sudo wrote

Do you mean, "Americans are responsible because they voted for an imperialistic president?" In that case, they didn't have a choice - every presidential candidate that has a chance of winning is imperialist. It's why communists criticize their democracy as bourgeois democracy, because the people can only choose between capitalist A and capitalist B.

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DeathToAmerica wrote (edited )

Americans are responsible for burying their heads in the sand and not even lifting a finger to protest as their state turns entire countries into rubble. Your inaction is as bad as anything your state does to us. And you pleading with us not to fight back unless it causes communist revolution is even worse than inaction.

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sudo wrote

Americans are responsible for burying their heads in the sand and not even lifting a finger to protest as their state turns entire countries into rubble.

A lot of them aren't aware of the secret drone wars the US is engaging in. For other things, like the Iraq war, a lot of Americans did protest it. But the US government's "terrorist" rhetoric meant that a lot of Americans ended up supporting the war, when they wouldn't have otherwise.

Your inaction is as bad as anything your state does to us.

I never said I was American. But if a bunch of Americans do protest, what of it? That won't stop the wars, unless it's something like the Vietnam War protests that almost lead to a revolution.

And you pleading with us not to fight back unless it causes communist revolution is even worse than inaction.

I never said that, either. Stop putting words in my mouth. It's perfectly fine for a country to fight back against the US military that's invading it for no good reason. Just don't go murdering innocent US civilians, because they truly don't have anything to do with it.

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phoenixphan23 wrote

This is more attributable to capitalism, don't you think? Though I do agree America is at the front atm