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Potkea wrote

To Styx and Bloodrose (if they're reading this after they've deleted their accts):

If you're reading this, I'll miss you two. You were both kind, intelligent, and excellent individuals who made my (and dozens of other users) times at raddle infinitely better.

Let's hope that we may someday cross paths again, on this site, on any other, or in the real world.

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existential1 wrote

I feel like the post i put up a couple days ago about how anarchist spaces deal with issues was very timely here. I must say, I'm disappointed in the outcome and feel the processes taken to get here leave something to be desired.

That isn't to excuse any allegations of harm, and as I can't read any of the original posts i can't come to my own conclusions about them either. I just can't imagine the long term health of the site being for the better if there's no space to come back from mistakes if the person who made said mistake sincerely attempts to redress. Again, I can't read shit cuz they left so i can't tell if that happened or not.

Whole situation leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

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asterism wrote (edited )

and now bloodrose has left

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the_desert wrote

i’ve loved her posts and comments for years. and really sad one of the oldest Raddlers had left. they’re almost all gone now

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fortifiedmischief OP wrote

oh shit :(

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fortifiedmischief OP wrote

that whole situation seemed intense, I wasn't able to see the full convo but I worry the response was disproportionate? You can tell me if you think I'm wrong there?

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Potkea wrote (edited )

What convo was this? Did they leave over a raddle convo that got too intense?

Edit: Yes, seems like it, tho I don’t know the full context so I cannot pass judgement on any party. https://raddle.me/f/mediation/149815

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asterism wrote

Are you asking me personally if I thought it was disproportinate?

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fortifiedmischief OP wrote

I'm not sure what I'm asking lol... take it as you wish

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fortifiedmischief OP wrote

I do want to say that I hope all this doesn't deter you from feeling like you can share your feelings and stories from your life here. I know it can be really important and special to be able to do that in a space such as this

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asterism wrote

I didnt think it was disproportinate. Styx took it as LL trying to get bloodrose banned. I didnt see it that way and I was thankful for LL because what was said was hurtful even if it wasnt intentional it did come across as defending abuse and I wanted someone else to recognize it. It was a big help to me.

Now I was all square with bloodrose after the apology she posted and I am sad she left. so its disapointing it turned out this way but I personally dont think anyone responded incorrectly

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fortifiedmischief OP wrote

It was nice to see you and bloodrose be honest with each other and make peace. Personally I think LL piled it on too hard. Seemed like Bloodrose was doing nothing but apologizing, and in a way that read as pretty sincere, almost immediately after realizing the effect of their comment... And yet LL continued to barate them. Im glad LL supported you, still i wish the conversation could have remained centered between you and bloodrose

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asterism wrote

I personally didnt feel the first comments were sincere I may have been clouded by anger but I still stand by that.

I personally didnt think LL was out of line in that because I honestly was so angry I couldnt even respond and was grateful to feel stood up for.

I also think LL was right to make a mediation thread if only because of the possible effect her comments could have had on people that werent me.

I don't think I want to talk about this any more not saying you've oberstepped in anyway just saying that this is the last I will say about it. I stand by LLs actions. I regret Styx and Bloodrose left. I truly forgive and believe bloodrose and I just want to put this behind me.

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ziq wrote (edited )

wondered why i just lost my biggest patreons.

well done whoever chased them off

the site is no longer making enough to fund itself because of your drama (costs 60-70 EUR a month, patreons now down to 28 EUR)

wishing i had just stayed offline for a while when i got back from my trip yesterday

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ziq wrote

That whole forced group therapy thing leftists always pull needs to stop. It's just a goofy link submission site, no one needs to be forced into emotional reckoning with strangers. It's fucking creepy.

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ziq wrote (edited )

Just so I'm clear, this is an attack on u/leftous's f/mediation experiment, not the latest person who tried and failed to utilize it. I didn't even read their post until just now.

Edit: The ironic thing is it doesn't show any posts for years because everyone who posts there ends up deleting their account.

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SnowCode wrote

What the hell happened on that forum? I don't understand. Just discovered those posts now, what happened?

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lettuceLeafer wrote

Wtf is this bullshit. I told you twice on two separate occasions that you just had to tell me your costs and I would pay enough that you never had to pay out of pocket for server costs. But you should never tell me.

Then in your Patreon you would write about wanting money for buying trees or funding your writing. And you would refuse to tell me. All you have ever had to do is just say "hey LettuceLeafer, I'm X amount short for server fees can U pay it." I gave u the offer twice and you blew me off.

So how the hell do I get repaid. Instead of taking my offer you contrive this financial instability. Then you contrive this problem then use it to insult me. I literally fucking told you I would solve the issue.

Ugh, I got better shit to do with my life than hang out with people who don't like how I do things. I'll make it so you won't get to say I fucked you over. You better never fucking utter that shit.

I gave you 65 on 09/01/22. So that's an addition to bucks a month. So u make 33. Let's say an average of 65. That's 32 dollars a month. I'll send you 200 to cover 6 months. Then I'll leave. Now you have 6 months to go find some assholes to beg to.

Now shut the fuck up with the passive aggressive dragging me over your money. Money you have always just had to ask me for! Fucking piece of shit. Nah you would rather fucking drag me rather than be straight up and communicate with me. Jesus Christ.

I'm not sending the money cuz I want shit to do with raddle at this point. I'm only sending it so you don't get the right to play victim and act like I wronged you. You contrived this whole fucking event just to get the opportunity to be an ass to me.

I don't know why. Maybe I just fucking hate me but are too much of a coward to say it. I don't know what I did to deserve it. I tried pretty hard to get along with you.

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ziq wrote

Wtf is this bullshit. I told you twice on two separate occasions that you just had to tell me your costs and I would pay enough that you never had to pay out of pocket for server costs. But you should never tell me.

I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't read those messages.

Then you contrive this problem then use it to insult me.

You're the one who caused the account deletions? I've been hiking non stop for a week, I have no idea what happened, just that it somehow involved a mediation request, which I think history has proven only feeds the collective disharmony.

Ugh, I got better shit to do with my life than hang out with people who don't like how I do things. I'll make it so you won't get to say I fucked you over. You better never fucking utter that shit.

I've never even talked to you off of raddle, I don't know what you're on about. When have I ever said anything about you to anyone?

Now shut the fuck up with the passive aggressive dragging me over your money.

Wasn't passive aggressive, was a clear fuck you to whoever caused the site to lose its biggest funders, not to mention thousands of posts and comment chains that are now gone forever because of yet another interpersonal fight where people took one of 2 sides and both parties will all end up deleting their accounts and cursing the site's name for years at the end of this.

What is this, mass deletion #12 now? Can we just skip ahead to the next group's mass deletion so I don't have to waste months breaking them in?

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fortifiedmischief OP wrote

not to mention thousands of posts and comment chains that are now gone forever because of yet another interpersonal fight

real Void shit... sigh ... and so we rebuild, brick (of text) by brick (of text)

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mima wrote

Man, me being familiar with their name here really makes me feel old... I loved their posts and comments here. Really sad that they left. :(

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ChaosAnarchy wrote

insert "this no longer is an union of an egoist if one suffers in silence"

idk what happened tbh

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Gardon00765 wrote

Same. Just got on here today and guess it's gonna be a ghost town n not even sure why yet

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Fool wrote

I haven't read what was said, but I just want to add, in most bad relationships there is a large element of both sides being in the wrong. It may not be equal, but things can look different from different perspectives.

I think this point is likely the point of contention.

We're all messy, none of us live up to our own expectations, no one side is ever pure and right... We're just "human" or whatever.

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Gardon00765 wrote

Yall shall be missed and may gou eventually return. Im sure yall dont need to hear it but its yalls lives. Dont let nobody tell you how to live them or how to feel. How you feel is what matters.

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