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asterism wrote

But what about the poor people with a nut allergy?

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Chairman_Meh wrote

as with comedy so with praxis, don't punch down. Spunk on the bosses keys.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

Fucking marxists. How is this punching down. The people buying the pizza are ordering someone arround and the other person is their literal servant. Servants can't punch down on those who they serve. Thats ridiculous. Fuck workers and fuck consumers

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Meh, not a marxist but am a bit of a slut so don't count yourself out yet chief.

Meantime, the customers are encouraged to be that way by the broken system built and capitalized on by the pizza company. The driver isn't in control of how many orders the place takes, and based on reading the article it sounds like they keep taking too many orders and don't prepare the pizzas properly, plus they keep taking orders from these people who don't play their part in the shitty system, so they're not supporting the driver at all. So rather than get mad at these folks, who are indeed fuckheads, the I argue that the driver should have gotten mad at the company and system that perpetuated their fuckheadedness and disrupted it.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

okay, u say you are not a marxist, but your argument is just assuming marxist class dynamics are correct. Which is something i don't agree with at all. So unless you believe marxist class analysis this argument doesn't make any sense.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Oh fair point indeed, definitely something to unpack there re: the class dynamics thing.

But in this case I was just going with the authority/hierarchy set up in the typical pizza place job based on my limited experience in a few of those roles. Company and the boss push the whole "take all the orders regardless of ability to fill them" bullshit, the customers, not knowing/caring order, then bitch at or punish the only representative they get direct contact with, whose role in the game is designed as yet another layer of protection for the boss/management/company to keep them from encountering said customer. Customer's a fuckstick, but a powerless interchangeable individual in the exchange. Changing all the customers behavior is a systemic change, so helping remove the shitty pizza place will help remove the system that rewards them, and killing their manager turnover and retention rate will help do that.

So absent any other factors if I want to kill the pizza joint or train them not to pull that bullshit while I work there, and all I've got is my spooge, I think putting it on the manager/boss or owner get me the most bang for my bang, yeah?

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

to be clear I don't care about the not tipping. I care about the customer employee dynamic. Its one of one party has the potential to call and complain and get someone fired. And also is reliant on having tips to survive. So its a horrible powerdyanamic. And for a lot of people. Seperating going to resturaunts or getting delivery and people enjoying getting to have servants for a moment is not something you can seperate. Thats not why all people do it, but the issue with a servant and a person being served dynamic is one is subservient and just hopes the one being served is nice.

The working conditions of being a servant is irrelevant. Its the having to serve someone is something I"m against. People should only be served if its a mutual servitude or a accommodation for a disability imo. But many people don't consume all the ideal things so I'm not going to shame people for being served. Tho, it doens't change the fact that I'm against there being servants. Which pizza delivery driver and pizza maker are imo.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

I can get that, and yes the balance is weighted against the worker, but who sets and enforces that balance? Who actually has the power in this exchange? All 3 parties can tell the other to fuck off, but only one has the power to actually 'harm' the other(s) in a meaningful way, by deprivation of employment or deprivation of desired food, without meaningful direct recourse or equivalent response from the other parties. In all cases, the one most at risk is the worker, who either doesn't get a tip or loses a job, both long term impacts. The customer is, in this case, just one of many, so directly harming them doesn't impact the others or (really) the boss. The boss may have to lose out on a sale or give up a bit more money to overcome a single bad review or hire another worker, in both cases easily absorbed losses.

The server/servant dynamic is indeed sick in itself, unfortunately it's a foundation that (in my mind anyway) cannot be meaningfully addressed outside of individual education and personal choice without first removing the structures built upon said foundation. Not entirely, though, as you've proven, we can choose not to engage in the system as much as possible, but the system is structured in such a way to encourage and reward participation.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

I'm against people being served and bosses. Its not a competition. Bosses are hierarchical and have their workers serve them too. So I don't think the driver is in a hierarchical relationship to the pizza buyer. I try to be pretty inter sectional with my thoughts so usually for stuff like that you can just assume I"m against bosses unless I specify otherwise.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote (edited )

FYI gardon is a massive troll on this site. So just be aware of that if you wanna get sucked into a debate or whatever. I do it because its funny to me. Tho, thats not the case with everyone. Idk, they don't sound so openly like a troll. The jury is still out on if they are actually simpathetic or just doing it to troll better. haha

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Gardon00765 wrote

You ever think tryin to paint every single person you dont like as troll makes you and by connection this site look really petty? I've been accused if making alts without my name in it many times and never has it ever been backed up by anything. Even now you call me a troll but why? What did I do that mean you think I'm a troll? Have an opinion you didn't like? Can you even say what it is?

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Trolls typically say shit like "You ever think tryin to paint every single person you dont like as troll makes you and by connection this site look really petty? I've been accused if making alts without my name in it many times and never has it ever been backed up by anything. Even now you call me a troll but why? What did I do that mean you think I'm a troll? Have an opinion you didn't like? Can you even say what it is?"

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Gardon00765 wrote

so your defence of why I'm a troll is to reveal you dont have one and just say it is what it is? Cool beans lol

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Chairman_Meh wrote

We hold these trolls to be self-evident....

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Gardon00765 wrote

So yeah. You can't actually explain it and are just going with the crowd because it makes you feel good to not have to think. No different lol

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Meh, I don't see a crowd here. No one else is watching our little interplay anymore, I'm left simply with you, and you've overplayed it so now I can't even really justify the attempt to discuss the original topic with you, so what am I to do? What do I do when I don't consider your input worthy of proper consideration and yet you keep approaching in a vaguely interesting way?

You can attempt to reset if you like and we can concentrate on one point, but you'll need to work with me a little better if you want to make any progress. I'm game if you are!

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Gardon00765 wrote

well you could stop blowing smoke out your ass in an attempt to get the last word and fuck off if you dont wanna contribute. Or you could be a big boy or girl and continue the conversation. Maybe apologize for trying to derail so much even.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Hey now, I was contributing just fine, you went broad spectrum ass and told me that's what you wanted, and I responded to that. Like I said, if you want to reset and try to get back to whatever your original attempt at a point up about 20 comments ago was, we can do that. But when you come in with "they should just get better jobs" and other completely inane crap that just shows us how little perspective you have of what being poor is in the shithole system people find themselves in, of course I'm going to fuck with you, and I'm gonna do it until I get mine. We already pretty much ended the primary point that I think you and I can get consensus on, which was the whole "give 'em a zine and attempt to educate them on what you think their options are" bit, remember that? But past that, I dunno what you expect from the responses you've given. People are stuck within the material conditions they got shoved into, and their agency and knowledge to change that on the level you seem to think they should be is simply not there yet, a lot more work is necessary. I don't think your idea of taking advantage of the people who potentially could be some of the easiest to convince of the righteousness of our ideals and abandon their pursuit of work will help convince them you're worth listening to. It certainly hasn't convinced me. You may labor to change that if you wish.

There. I even went through all that and reset it for us. Now we can be friends again.

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Gardon00765 wrote

I'm not taking advantage of them tho. Thats what you arent understanding here. If me not giving charity to every person who makes wage that I meet makes me taking advantage than so are you, and everybody else who interacts with another human employee for money. Like I said, you just wanna put yourself on a pedastool and jerk off silly as if your some savior for lucking out and having extra money to burn, when you dont even give to every person you meet.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

If the business model is built to provide someone's livelihood based on your tipping them for the work they're doing vs just a straight wage that is at least ostensibly meant to cover living expenses, it's widely communicated and known, you are aware of the existence of the model, and you still partake in it and not tip without doing anything else at all to help ease the workload of the worker shorted by the system you're taking part in, that's you taking advantage of them.

If you don't want to support the system of tipping, I'm down with that. If you don't want to perpetuate the fiction that people should need a wage, I'm down with that.

So knowing the system is asking you to help subsidize this persons life with tips on top of the price of the pizza, if you feel that is wrong and yet still order the pizza for delivery, thus helping reinforcing the pizza place's assertion that it's product is in demand, it's business model is viable, and that it's wage structure is good, and you don't help compensate the person doing the delivery or help ease the burden you're contributing to, I'm still going to say that's a dick move, and that you should go pick up the pizza or make your own.

If you feel that you should then begin tipping everyone else you meet to square that circle, that's on you. It's a fair idea though.

I'd rather just go pick up my pizza if I'm not ready to make a whole new way to compensate the worker yet, and perhaps discuss their needs and ideas and see if there's a way I can help them accomplish some of that without money, if not now then tomorrow or the next day.

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Gardon00765 wrote

Just so were clear, your whole argument is built upon the flawed idea that delivery drivers domt get wage then? Tipping isnt their livelihood. They arent a restaurant server, which even then is still a choice. They get wage. So then you tip the mechanic and a store clerk every time right? Since you aremt ready to devise a whole new method yet? Or is it only others who have to live up to your ideas?

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Chairman_Meh wrote

no, my whole argument is build upon the idea that our society for some reason insists that we should subsidize that jobs particular wage with tips. And servers. I'm not certain how you're coming to the idea that tipping isn't their livelihood, can you explain that?

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Gardon00765 wrote

Because they get wage? Are you actually the troll here? I mean holy shit. Servers get paid below minimum wage when they make tips. The tips make up for the lack of a living wage. A pizza delivery driver literally gets a wage. They make a pay check like a store employee makes. They do no subsist off tips as you keep trynna pretend.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

You keep insisting on this and yet the lived experience of people who do it says otherwise. What is your hourly wage when you deliver pizzas then, before accounting for tips?

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Gardon00765 wrote

Depends where you live and which place you work at of course. Would you like to be more specific?

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Oh no I'm sorry you were speaking with such authority earlier I thought you had personal experience. I asked what YOU made delivering pizza?

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Gardon00765 wrote

I wasn't speaking with autbority tho dummy. You should learn what words means. By the way, I dont need personal EXPERINECE. Not authority. To be able to check what a wage is

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Oh thank goodness you're back. I admit I thought you'd shot your wad and that was all I'd have gotten out of you. I was disappointed! Well... MORE disappointed. I know, I know, why should I be any different from everyone else in your life, eh?

Meanwhile, which place did you call and what did you find? Show me what evidence you have for your claim if you think you have any, and I can help you figure out why you're full of shit and have no idea what you're talking about.

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Gardon00765 wrote

Just so werr clear here. You are resulting to personal insults after you being to lazy to simply Google "dominos driver pay". I guess my evidnece would be the dollar amount employee paychecks lol

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Chairman_Meh wrote

CALLED IT! You just googled the pay and didn't even think to ask how they came to that number. Didn't even think to call a place and ask a human, huh? You are SO PRECIOUS my little gem, don't you ever change, as if you could. And no, I'm not personalizing my insults for you. I'm just reaching back into the stack for some generics since they fit just as well. Cool, huh? I could probably get an IRC bot to handle you further if I could figure out how to get it to work with this interface.

Anyway, oh yeah sorry, almost forgot. ahem

You're talking directly from your ass, please find your nearest comic shop and ask them if they have a copy of Clue so you can at least have that if not the real thing.

Go on champ! Take another swing! You're doing great!

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Gardon00765 wrote

awww poor baby mad that they are wrong. So sad. Not like there's actual humans you can ask as well lol. Lotta text when you coulda just typed out "oh shit my bad for being wrong and lying"

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Chairman_Meh wrote

It's good that you admitted you were lying. I, however, wasn't. I know what pizza delivery drivers make and it's less than minimum wage.

I know, it's difficult, but if you try reeaaaaaally hard you might actually be able to grasp the point. Try hard, little gem of mine! Try hard!

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Gardon00765 wrote

Chairmen_Meh will take "continue to lie" for 500. Whats behined the second curtain? More lies lol. Delivery drivers make wage. Im sorry you can't cope with reality

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Yes, they make a wage, but not minimum wage. Keep trying!

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Gardon00765 wrote

yup. Some make slightly more than minimum wage. Depends where you work.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Prove it! No no, I mean really, not just with an indeed posting or whatever weak shit you were bringing, I mean actually prove you know one thing about what you're talking about.

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Gardon00765 wrote

so you want me to give you proof? And the literal pay amount listed isnr good enough for you? A d you seriousley call me a troll? Holy fuck you are clowning hard now.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Uh yeah, that's what I'm saying there bubba. The pay rate on their listing is a lie, an 'approximation' based on what they say an average drivers tips 'can be'. Capitalists lie, ya know, just like their apologists and simps. Say.... do you think that might be why YOU'RE lying?

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Gardon00765 wrote

almost like if you take a job and the listed pay is a lie you should quit then right? Maybe fuck over your boss for lying. Steal some stock maybe? Nah of course not. The real anarchist answer is to blame random people for not giving you charity as you choose to stay in your abusive liar relationship at that place

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Chairman_Meh wrote

figured that once he pulled that 'get a better job' line and the whole place didn't come down to widdle in his inbox. Was amusing for a bit though, good practice. 6/10 would engage again

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Gardon00765 wrote

Why does not giving money away to people all the time make me a troll? This is what I mean. You dont like that I can't give money away all thr time so I'm a troll. Seriously. Why is it my job to pay the wage of them any more than it is a worker at auto zone? Do you tip every person that deals with you? We all gotta work and we all got shit jobs as our options. Nobodies special.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Why should I justify it? You're bringing so much baggage to the conversation anyway so you're proving it for me simply by being. You're doing all my work for me. It's great.

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Gardon00765 wrote

Why should you justify what? Calling me a troll? Do you dont look like a petty kid with a grudge. Or why you don't tip each service worker? You should jusify that one so you don't seem a hypocrite who just wants ass pats while not helping those you fake cry for. What work have I done for you? Could you actually explain rather than lazily trynna opt of the discussion? Prove it instead of just going with mom mentality lol.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

It's so quickly devolved into a koan that I can't even begin to define it for you, I daren't try lest I break the soap bubble ephemerality of the situation. It's simply beautiful, it is, and I thank you for giving me the opportunity to play my part in, in our shared little dance, as I time the crescendo of this individual and yet inextricably entangled duet and say..

Your mom.

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Gardon00765 wrote

So yea. Little baby can't lol.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Oh are we at the point now where we abandon coherent sentences? Goody goody, I was there a while ago, mind, but it's nice of you to join me.

Cat tampon basics lol.

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Gardon00765 wrote

seemed coherent to me. You are a hypocrite who doesn't practice what you preach. You talk down to the less fortunate to feel better about yourself. You can't actually defend why you i should always give charity to this one type of wage employee but not others

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Sure I can, you just don't agree with it. To be fair, I don't like it either and would rather change it, but I'd rather change it by flattening or dismantling it rather than just shorting the guy with the least to lose and calling it a day. If I'm gonna just call it a day I'll just go get my pizza and not have to make some guy drive it over expecting I'll keep up my end of the shitty bargain.

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Gardon00765 wrote

cool beans. So you'll be willing to get your butt in the car and take it to people who can't drive or pick it up then right?

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Chairman_Meh wrote

If I'm compensated for doing it yes. But I am lucky enough to be able to choose to do it for those within my affinity group and I'm not paid with money, usually. It's not something I have to try to do to earn rent or food anymore.

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Gardon00765 wrote

Cool so your fine with what I've said and have been crying for nothing. They are compensated. That is what a wage is.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

I think I see the disconnect, see you in the other part of the thread. This is progress!

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Gardon00765 wrote

Why shoudlnt a person be able to treat themsleves to a pizza now n then even if they dont hsve enough extra for a tip?

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

having unnecessary servants is bad. lol

The idea that you go and hire a servent for fun is only an option if you are in an extremely rich position relative to society.

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roanoke9 wrote

Ooo, unneccessary servants? Did you just do a chomsky? Or did you mean having servants is bad?

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Gardon00765 wrote

of course. But we live in society and all that crap. No. Ordering pizza and having delivery isnt the extremely rich of society. Maybe of global society if that's what ya mean. But if so I got a hard time imagining you being sympathetic with the American driver who still has an iPhone and house even without the tip. I agee folk should just get it themselves if they can but they can't always do that.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

Over 50% of the worlds population lacks so much wealth or acess to tech that cooking with foraged wood / charchol is their only option. If most people don't have acess to electric or propane cooking. I hightly doubt they have delivery and if they do I highly doubt they buy it. Over 50% of the population live on a wage equivalent to living on 6 dollars in the US. People living on 6 dollars a day aren't buying pizza nor delivery.

Also yeah idrc about the driver. I don't like people hiring servants to do their bidding as a form of relaxation. If you are hungy and can't cook food, nuts/ trailmix/grains like oats which you can eat raw/spouts are all reasonable options. I mean I really don't care how randos live their live. But I find it interesting to talk about the nuances of what you can challenge.

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Gardon00765 wrote

Whyd you pay a pilot to fly you or boat owner to sail you? People on six bucks a day can't afford that either. Why didn't you learn it yourself? I'm not trynna shit on you, i dont really care anymore, but what makes it different if its just money spent on a servant? I aint the folk made a money who can afford this shit all the time but whats wrong with rarely doing so?

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

I think it is very bad to pay a piolot to fly for me. And I think I only did it because I was in a financial postion most people don't have acess to. I don't think it was a good dynamic. Life is complex and complicated, I do things that hurt people or cause hierarchy. And that doesn't make it a good thing. This all happens because I compromise with the system for my benefit rather than an all out attack. So my hands aren't clean in this disscussion. But even if I don't never have others serve me non mutually that doesn't make my critique of the servant dynamic incorrect

I mean you should know just as well as anyone, that I'm pretty open that my lifestyle has lots of hierarchy and oppression to sustain it.

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Gardon00765 wrote (edited )

Doesn't make it incorrect maybe just makes you a hypocrite than. Trust me I know. that's why it's wierd to flip out on people when doing the same stuff. Edit. Fuck it tho honestley restaurants just shouldn't exist at all.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

oh shit, well if you are gonna be based I won't make fun of u lol

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Gardon00765 wrote

Thank you my day has been made lol.

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roanoke9 wrote

This whole long exchange reminds me a bit of a nuanced version of a scene from Reservoir Dogs, minus all the slurs.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

"Ordering pizza and having delivery isnt the extremely rich of society." Your privilege and lack of perspective are hanging out there where we can all see them, you might want to work on that. Or at least wash them.

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Vulgar_Soda wrote

If you were a cow forced to be perpetually pregnant and then had to watch your children be ripped from you as you were milked to the point of profusive pain and bleeding, would you treat yourself to a pizza made from your own misery?

🐄

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asterism wrote (edited )

There's a tear in my beer.

edit: this is just a joke reference to a song. But i guess if some food was made from my forced suffering I wouldnt necessarily have a problem eating it. the problem I would have is with people who are not me eating it. I dont know if thats terriblt consistent or thought out but thats my gut feeling.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Per the article it was a chronic problem from this customer, and also it's a broken system predicated upon customers being ignorant enough to buy into the tipping bullshit. An educated and savvy customer should know that if they order a pizza in the USA that the wage slave tasked with bringing them their little indulgence is getting fuck all for it, so they should go pick up their own damn pizza, make it themselves, or have cash handy rather than a sob story.

A MORE educated customer should be abusing the shit out of the shitty pizza place management/ownership so it closes and gets replaced by a better one if the societal desire is enough to truly justify a pizza place in that area in the current economic hellhole.

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Gardon00765 wrote

Pizza delivery drivers in the u.s get paid a wage tho. Why add a tip to that? Did you tip each cashier at the grocery store as well? I aint made a money and we all trynna earn or take some. Yeah I could make it, or magically have money rather than a sob story. Or they could a better job or steal like everybody else. Like i said, we don't tip every other wage job, so why do they get a sob story when a store employee doesn't? Ive never understood it.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

"They should just get a better job" Man fuck your Fox News entitled horseshit. Abusing the lowest worker in a bad system isn't a blow against the system, it's just you being a an entitled dickbag to someone who's got to scrape through shit to survive. Stop thinking willful ignorance is a point.

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Gardon00765 wrote

Everybody has to scrape through shit to survive. Im sorry I can only cry so much and care for so many. There are many jobs out there truelly. They all suck horrible ass but some pay alot better than others. Im not abusing the worker. The boss is by underpaying them. In just not giving extra donations on top of their pay. Nothing willfully ignorant about it. There are options. People can begin to unionize or revolt. The world aint gonna fix itself nor are the people at the top gonna fix it for us. Do you tip the grocery store clerk and gas station attendant as well? Since they also make wage and all

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Chairman_Meh wrote

If you take part in the system and not even have the care to tip, you're doubly harming the worker by rewarding the company that engages in exploitative behavior by continuing to do business with it and forcing the worker to make the choice of two harmful options, directly punish you similar to what this hypothetical worker did or simply refuse the order, and in either case be punished themselves for it, or take the hit and spend their time and their vehicle to bring you your food anyway.

Yes, you are continuing to be willfully ignorant, as you know your delivery driver is being paid shit and you're continuing to tell the company that is okay by doing business with them, and hiding behind your entitled idea that they have other options. If they had other options they wouldn't be delivering your food. You should find and do business with a company that pays their workers a decent wage if you insist on supporting their business model, or you should find out if the worker is even aware of those options and can pursue them and support them while they do. If you're not going to do either then you should not be harming the worker by continuing to pay the business. Failing that, if the worker decides to lash out at you for it, you should accept that as a reasonable risk for your behavior and not attempt to have them punished over it.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

addendum to point out I neglected to account for the fact that some people just love delivering pizzas so may have other options, but then hopefully they wouldn't also go around jerkin their merkin on someones pizza over a lack of tips, and would simply do it for the love of the game.

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Gardon00765 wrote

why do you go shopping if you arent gonna give the cashier extra every single time? Your hurting then all the same as the driver by not giving them more on top of the wage. You enable to company to not pay them enough as well. Seems you wanna say people should live without luxuries completely to avoid partaking in the exploitation of others but don't wanna ackowldge bow much of what you do that negatively affects folks just the same tbh

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Chairman_Meh wrote

false equivalency, weak. How much are cashiers typically paid per hour vs delivery drivers vs bartenders? The rest of whatever that was didn't make sense. Come back after you recover and try again.

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Gardon00765 wrote

delivery drivers make more wage than bartenders and cashiers. You can come back when you learn the world you live in lol

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Chairman_Meh wrote

shit I didn't no wonder I quit that damn job. Plus even if they do now it's the car getting paid that since I brought the car to the job. So the car's getting paid better than the person and the person has to rely on the good luck of the universe that they don't run into some low-effort knockoff Mr. Pink who didn't even leave the house with the rest of the suits. Goddamn you're putting me off pizza now, wtf.

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

Did you tip each cashier at the grocery store as well?

yes on occasion.

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Gardon00765 wrote

why only occasionally? I'd assume because you arent made of money and realize they make wage, and thus won't instantly starve without your generosity. All im saying, is we dont make fun of a homeless person for spending a couple bucks on beer or weed to enjoy themsleves for a bit, so how's this differnet? Just cause you aint got even more money shouldn't mean you can't enjoy what you've got when it aint hurting nobody

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Chairman_Meh wrote

The distribution cost of beer/weed is baked into the cost, and the employee minding the store doesn't have to schlep it over to your lazy ass. Delivery services for that stuff exist, but they pad the cost of the item and still tell you to tip because they're also shorting the worker. Homeless folks don't get beer delivered, they get to its established distribution point and get it.

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Gardon00765 wrote

you dont have the beer clerk bring you your beer because they're job is to run thr store bot deliver. You have a delivery driver delieve your item because it is their job they choose to do for wage. Jobs that don't get wage and rely on tips are a thing if they'd like.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

Again your privilege shows, you assume they have any other available or visible choice for them. They're forced by the system we're stuck in to take any job to survive.

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Gardon00765 wrote

So is everybody everywhere. Some steal, some get a different job elsewhere, some sell drugs, some try to unionize or form a coop. There are options that are more reliable and give more than relying on luck and the generosity of others who also struggle but still wanna experience certain foods.

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Chairman_Meh wrote

And that's cool, totally valid options. There's also healthier and more amusing ways to damage the business or those customers without endangering himself so much. Our theoretical pizza guy should be made aware of those options regardless of their proclivities anyway. Imaginary dude could use an imaginary affinity group or similar.

Give Spanky a zine or url along with the tip the first time and maybe he'll look. Or don't or maybe he won't.

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NoPotatoes wrote

Max Green of Miami was fired from a local pizza delivery chain

Due to privacy the name of the restaurant will be withheld

Just Florida Things

Also isn't this website satirical?

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CyberTailor wrote

this is not praxis, this is sex offence

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lettuceLeafer OP wrote

omegalul

you made an account to say that something isn't based becaues its illegal. Boy you sure are gonna have a rude awakening on this site. And besides I've called sex offenses based all the time such as public indecency and public pissing and defication.

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idkalice wrote

i would argue that kewming in someones food and pissing in a bush are different things but its fake so wev

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