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AnarchoDoom wrote (edited )

I'd avoid putting everyone in a same basket.

It depends where, and whether their unions side with cop unions. In my area they're independent and got an history of not collaborating due to cop "interventions" fucking up with their jobs (like cops using their equipment without prior asking, making it harder to act quickly in a fire rescue operation). But the cops created their own BS "fire department", that is a fire prevention division, who're basically just cops and never do any fire rescue...

Firefighters' job ain't reactionary by design, unlike the cops' jobs.

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kin wrote

Why not refuse the whole idea of a dedicated firefighters corp?

Not speaking from a pragmatic place, maybe at industrial scale it is not feasible, but why not facilitate access to the tools and training for everyone interested and first aid stuff too. It's like learn to cook or read, rescue techniques are useful.

Sorry to enter in the middle of the convo

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AnarchoDoom wrote (edited )

Why not refuse the whole idea of a dedicated firefighters corp?

"Separation", "specialization", or "division of labor"... there's different ways to call it, but it's an old thing in society. Subdivisions keep getting created to justify "experts" or "technicians" getting paychecks for some over-compartimented jobs. The more a society becomes managerial the more you get this stuff.

Of course you don't need a military when everyone is trained and armed to defend themselves, as well as knows the secrets on how to build a nuke. Same for firefighters.

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