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zoom_zip wrote

i'm getting the impression a lot of the responses here are US-centric because fire and ambulance services elsewhere are not so ingrained with the capitalist system

maybe i'm wrong?

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bloodrose wrote

Yes, I should have mentioned it was US-centric in my response to LL. I understood their reference to "glorified uber" for "thousands of dollars" as an ambulance because in the US, we have private ambulances that charge thousands of dollars for a ride to the hospital with some amount of medical monitoring/assistance along the way.

Ambulances in the US are private companies. Fire services are either state-run or volunteer-run.

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moonlune wrote

Ambulances in the US are private companies.

We're getting more and more private ambulances here too (EU, it's probably similar for other EU countries). They don't turn on their siren & lights most of the time, and are glorified taxis for people without life threatening medical conditions, are over-costed and siphon money from private insurances (maybe public money too but idk).

That wouldn't be much of a problem, but they're cannibalizing our regular free ambulances that end up understaffed & overworked. I feel like they'll disappear in a few years.

Fucking EU copying broken USA infrastructures :(

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zoom_zip wrote

equally i only have a european perspective on this, i guess we are lucky that our healthcare is free or subsidised. i had to call an ambulance for my kid a year or so ago and i am grateful for the paramedics that came and gave her the treatment she needed with no charge.

they might be tied to the state re: funding, but there’s no way you can equate fire-fighters or paramedics to cops (which was done elsewhere in the thread), unless i am massively missing something or unless there is something about the way US fire-fighters and paramedics operate that is not pervasive elsewhere?

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