Submitted by landoblacksabbath in lobby

I have always been a huge fan of leftism, and anarcho-communism in particular. I get the hate for stirner; i love his edge and way of looking at things but def dislike some of his morals lol. I love The Conquest of Bread (1906), HATE Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution and like Post-Scarcity Anarchism. Desert by anonymous was a huge disappointment and sadly I'm not looking forward to seeing more nihilism creep into the next chapter of anarchism. I've read what David Graeber intended to write next and I wish to god he had gotten to do it!

I've read every book of every great ancom dozens of times and absolutely LOVE Pyotr Alexeyevich Kropotkin's optimistic view of the future. I love the idea of building a society not for money but just to celebrate the incredible human spirit and meet new comrades to expand our understanding of science and the universe.

In middle school/high school anarchism basically saved my life (not to be dramatic lol). Basically I'm bored and lonely and was hoping to start some kind of appreciation/philosophical convo about anarchism and/or leftism in general.

I love Noam Chomsky and William Gillis but am not a fan of Bob Black. My black cat's name is Johann Kaspar Schmidt :)

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zoom_zip wrote

great to have a fellow chomskyite here opposing all unjust hierarchy and all unjust authority. i’m a chomskyite too. i love him. he is my idol and i have his poster on my bedroom wall next to a poster of che guevara and a hammer and sickle. anyway come on over to /f/policereform i think you’ll fit right in.

every day is a struggle trying to create a more just authority :D

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zoom_zip wrote

just a little warning though

the admins here on raddle are a little ban happy. it’s practically a police state. obviously they are NOT ANARCHIST.

we might be better off on somewhere like reddit where there is a real free market of ideas

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ziq wrote

They're also leftist moralists who get really anal and ban you when you rape a few kids even though you didn't even break their rules. So what do you all think of anarcho-pedophilia?

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ziq wrote

anyone from anarchyplanet reading this, yucking it up with a proud pedo and being an anarchist aren't compatible. Opposing rape isn't morality, it's anarchy.

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asere_que_vola wrote

plz don't define anarchyplanet as "yucking it up" with whatever is happening. you left. sad to see you go, yes - the chat is terrible. have some patience plz.

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ziq wrote

Fair. I don't know what happened after I left or if the people that were being friendly with him are associated with the project.

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moonlune wrote

Hi welcome,
there aren't many red anarchists here so it'll be interesting to add you to the conversations.

How did you discover raddle?

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ziq wrote

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Vulgar_Soda wrote

OP read like a joke. Glad I can still call it lol.

Haven't seen Picard. Worth a watch?

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ziq wrote

All trek is, even lesser trek like that one.

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AnarchoDoom wrote

That Picard show was a shitshow, lol

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ziq wrote

It's only been 10 episodes. Even the best Trek takes a few seasons to get good.

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AnarchoDoom wrote (edited )

But that's just a spin-off, focused on some elderly guy, lol. The actor could die at any point irl... You don't start a multi-season series out of this. It's totally like a way for the TNG actors to get themselves some retirement jobs.

The original Star Trek series (ring any bell?) were great from the start. It's true tho that TNG was crap for at least the 1 or 2 first seasons.

Tho not on any Alex Kurzman annoying pretentious level of crap. Picard made him look like he didn't watch any of the old series... Same can be said of the Star Trek film reboots.

Anyways Star Trek is pretty much just a brand by now... same as Star Wars. Franchises that got sucked out of their overarching concepts.

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UberGeek wrote

TOS had many really garbage episodes... Like slapping down the US Constitution on a planet?

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AnarchoDoom wrote (edited )

TOS never pretended being masterpieces. I mean Spock was fucking using a repurposed cheap plastic cup as the mic on his communications board...

Everything is clunky and sometimes dumb, but that's what made it a classic. And at least it didn't too itself too seriously as these more recent productions. It's like the Borg in TNG... they look ridiculous. Even at that, they managed to turn them into pretty scary villains. Q was also a kind of comical relief, among many others, for a series gone rather austere and "rationalist" in tone.

Of course someone could say there's these aspects in the newer series, but super big chaotic space battles debris everywhere? Vulcans turned into ninja space elves? Sauron!? lol

They're just recycling tropes from other franchises/movies.

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UberGeek wrote

I'm not talking about the kitchy effects. Some of the episodes were downright trash.

TNG had some really trash episodes too: like Code of Honor?

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AnarchoDoom wrote (edited )

Code of Honor was Season 1... I know at least Season 1 was shit. It didn't made the whole TNG series any less great, as it later set its own tone, approach and quality standard. And unlike the more recent series, it was original.

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Kinshavo wrote (edited )

I'm pleasantly surprised that comments here appear to be open to Blessed is the Flame and Desert not being very good books. For me those books are very different from 1890s Anarchists that I grew up with and love. However, I've seen many times here people arguing that people like me, who don't like Blessed is the Flame and Desert, are somehow closed-minded or right-wing or whatever.

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ziq wrote

Agreed! I could hardly be left-wingier and I have big problems with BITF and DES.

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GlangSnorrisson wrote

How much did it hurt to type that?

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ziq wrote

I want to introduce you to Alternate Anarchism: This is a political system that is the perfect combination of capitalism, and anarchism, while maintaining the least ammout of hierarchy. The idea is the following: Instead of a king, queen, president or any other form of leader, there is a bot that distributes incoming profit of the country between other bots, that control departments, and the people. Istead of a president, there would be a national consultant, who tells the bot what the people wants, and the bot, using the data from hundreds of years of ruling, decides the best way to execute the consultants order. The country would be split into 200 peices, each holding 0,5 percent of the poulation. Each "province" would have a representetive, that votes what should the constultant do. These representetives only have power on their own provice to avoid corruption, and the national consultant is basically just a puppet representing the nations intrest both in, and outside of the country. The national consultant cannot change anything in said provinces, he is just there to act. To become a representetive, you must have a collage degree, and years of learing behind your back, so that every and each representetive knows what they are talking about, and why certain things are done the way they are. To become the national consultant, you must get at least 2/3rds of the representetives. The position of natiolnal consultant has no time limimt, but can be changed down if at least 2/3rds of the representetives vote to do so. The representetives shift every 5th year, as the provice helds an election that who should become the next representetive. To avoid corruption, the representetives have no power over their provice. To change anything in the province, the congress has to vote for it, and the wanted thing needs to get a majority. Putting up posters, and advertising is banned, and the only way to let everyone else in your provice to know that you want to run for representetive, is to get on the final voting page. To get to the final voting page you must go trough a brawl of voting rounds. Every province would have to be split up to 10 smaller parts, all of witch can run representetives, the one representetive that will come out to the the provincipal voting, the vote that decides said provices' representetive, would be decided by the locals, who know each candidate. Every parts every candidate has to make a short video about themselves, who are they, and why are they want to be a representetive. The people would by law, have to vote on the provinces official site, where under every candidate, there must be a video discussed previously. The more a preson has learned trough schools, the higher up on the list they would be, making the more capeable person more likely to win. After the representetives has been set, there would be a mothly vote every representetive will ask their provices pople what they want to see, the people of the provinces would vote, what should the representetive vote for, and what thing he/she must suggest to the congress, to be discussed. That ladies and gentlemen, is hierarchy and politics with no power, the whole thing anarchism is about.

But we aren't quite done yet. Now the equalism part: You remember the bot i've talked about? Now here what it does, as you may know, presidents job is to distribute the incoming money of the country between the people, and the keys that are needed to run the country, heads of departments, and polititins that decide what to do. While in democracy, the keys are nessesary to pay, in alternate anarchism its not. The keys are also bots, distibuting incoming money between the districts. For exaple: To infoce the law, there must be police, every policestation must have a lieutenant to distribute the money between the officers. While in democracy you must pay the lieutenant too, in alternate anarchism, you don't need to, because the lirutenant is a bot, who is tasked my the main bot to distrubute said ammount of money between the officers. Sticking to this exaple, every province would have a police station with a bot in it, that is paying the workers on the main bots behalf. The main bots job is quite easy, here is X ammount of money, pay all the workers, and distribute the rest evenly between the 200 provinces' bots, that will spend the money according to the requests. After the the provinces' bots are done with their given task, like give money to all of the departments of the province, so to pay for every workers efforts, the bot will evenly distribute the remaining money between the people of said province, regardless if they work or not, if form of a UBI.

And thats it, a social hieararchy without powers, a world where everyone is equal, where there is no corruption, everyone gets paid by their efforts, not by their affilation. A world where corruption is phisically inpossible, because there is no power to steal. I think i just solved politics... I wish you all the best!

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GlangSnorrisson wrote

Forget I said anything.

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ziq wrote

We can no longer do nothing.

The world is due for a revolution, Global warming and it’s consequences will lead to the death of freedom and democracy. We can no longer sit back and watch the world that we love wither away! Action is needed, And for that I ask of you to join the revolution and help start a new world!

https://www.thepetitionsite.com/102/322/125/stop-global-warming/

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GlangSnorrisson wrote (edited )

Yeah I brought this upon myself, didn’t I?

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ziq wrote

I hate anarchists.

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GlangSnorrisson wrote

Are you saying these are quotes from r/@ or something? If so that’s hilarious. A bit sad, but mostly hilarious honestly.

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IForgotToSayGoodbye wrote

I hope this will be well used out of context in the future, we can refer to this form of government as ziqarchy.

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