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zoom_zip wrote

the anarchist-solar future is a dystopian pipe dream

had a guy try to convince me that in an anarchist society, people would be paid to work in silicon and mineral mines so they could continue to build factories and machines to manufacture factories and machines to manufacture factories and machines to manufacture machines that build machines that build computer chips to go in drones and solar panels and computers.

that people would be paid to work shipping lanes to bring these resources together across the globe, out of the goodness of their heart, and for a bit of that sweet currency.

so the anarchist-solarpunk future is just current capitalism but only for “good” things?

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kin wrote

One heck of ideological gymnastics to justify Industrialism and the compulsory production of technology.

This people imagine the final outcome but don't care how it will be accomplished or by whom. And those martyrs imagine people sacrificing themselves to work in anarchist mines to help the global revolution ™

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metocin wrote

yeah solarpunk is just a ridiculous fantasy that actually gets treated by some poorly informed internet people as some sort of pseudoideology. It's just extremely optimistic art and nothing more.

also I fucking hate the "-punk" shit because it has absolutely nothing to do with punk culture or aesthetics.

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NoPotatoes wrote

I think the challenge of accepting the truth of the sustainability of technology is that our lives have been wrapped so tightly in the digital world, so we struggle to imagine a life without.

I feel myself trying to recall simpler times, when we had no TV in our house, and the neighborhood wasn't filled with spy cameras and microphones. I was so young back then.

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moonlune wrote

I haven't thought this through much but I'd be happy to go digging for a few months (like, 1 or 2 max) and/or working in a factory a few weeks to bring back some high tech loot to my close ones. Imagine international volunteering but instead you bring back loot.

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zoom_zip wrote

if it were that simple, i would too,

but i think it underestimates the complexity of what goes into making these things

you need people volunteering in mines for silicon, you need people volunteering in mines for metals. the resources aren’t all available in one place so you also need people volunteering to transport them globally and bring them to where they need to go. most of the materials don’t go directly into producing the product but go into building specific tools and machinery that are used in the process—large scale smelters, processing units, etc. and the ships that transport the resources, which all also need their own specific machinery to be built in the manufacturing process. that’s not to mention that a lot of the steps in this process are harmful to the people engaged in it. mining is harmful work (often long term to your lungs), and the chemical processing of silicon chips is harmful work (also to your lungs?). the resources can then be processed in specialised labs to turn the silicon into computer chips or into the parts for solar panels.

you’re already at a global supply chain of thousands of people all expecting some loot, but you haven’t even got a finished product. you’ve got a part of a product in one part of the world. and you’ve reinvented global capitalism to get it.

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kin wrote

If we could replicate technology in this scale, like artisans or relying on just the personal interests and people sharing their discoveries and invents would be close to a good solution.

Bolo'Bolo give the idea of affinity based Bolos that could be based on affinity groups, maybe a hacker Bolo will share their telecom network and maybe they will teach other close Bolos to replicate the tech and propagate it, but then the things will function in function of a group of people agreeing in a coordinate effort.

NGL It is a beautiful tought

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subrosa wrote

The help I got, so far, is mostly of the resocialization program kind. I'm not in a position to reject that help but it's endlessly frustrating. Other than perhaps the young social worker that I got assigned to on day 1, nobody in any of these institutions even tries to pretend to give a shit. They do their best to make me feel I'm a burden on them and a parasite on everything they represent. Maybe it's too early to be this negative, but not even I can be this distanced and cold with people.

I'm looking at a year of full-time work outside the private sector, with some protections from getting fired, with some oversight on my mental health. Whatever that means.

All of that got me dreaming about getting a big backpack and just walk away from everything. I feel like wandering off, along the river, without screens and measured time, without trying to fit in in any way. But maybe with some sharpies and stickers, so that I get to be on the other end of the one-sided conversation. Alexander Supertramp it for a while, but with some money to find back home.

Entideologisiere dich.

Entdemokratisiere dich.

Entzivilisiere dich.

Stimme behalten. Werde unregierbar.

On every handrail and park bench, my kind of breadcrumb trail. For myself. I'm just so tired of dealing with all these bureaucrats and officials. Tired of everyone driving their shitty car from work to the supermarket, to bother some cashiers about some coupon to get their daily meat a little cheaper, so they can go home and mow their lawn and worry about their crypto investments.

/rant, I feel better now

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moonlune wrote

I got my ears pierced this week. I feel so attractive and smile each time I see myself in a mirror 🥰

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zoom_zip wrote

what even is a liberal?

the right calls the left liberals. the left calls the right liberals. a communist called me a radlib because i said their revolution would never happen (i’ve never advocated for electoral politics iirc). i even see the term thrown around here in confusing and conflicting ways. these terms are just meaningless insults for “person with different opinions than me”.

we should abandon the word and come up with a replacement.

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celebratedrecluse wrote (edited )

these terms are just meaningless insults for “person with different opinions than me”.

Well, yes, but also no.

Everyone who is born into a hegmonic liberal society (everyone in global capitalism, essentially) is going to hold liberal views/embody liberalism, at various points of their life.

It's like calling someone a bootlicker. It just means someone you don't like, there is only the barest minimum of politics or context built around it, which can be suited to whatever you want. Right wing antimask fools were calling anyone with a mask "bootlickers" for wearing a mask. Right wing germans in the 2000s were adopting black bloc tactics borrowed from the autonomist squatting struggles of the 80s in their country ("National Autonomist")

we should abandon the word and come up with a replacement.

Using more specific language is always better than meaning-sapped insults

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metocin wrote

I mean Liberalism is an actual ideology that many people do consciously (and often unconsciously) subscribe to. But the radlib shit is just an insult that bootlicking dogmatic marxists use against anarchists because they've never read one page of anarchist writing.

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NoPotatoes wrote

When I say liberal, I mean in the liberal-democratic sense. Some key features of the ideology:

  • A constitution, "checks and balances", "separation of powers"
  • "Rule of law"
  • Clearly delineated territorial boundaries
  • Market economies, private property
  • Support for a free press and free speech

The trouble is that liberalism often trends toward fascism. The checks and balances and rule of law that liberals rely on often crumble in the face of somebody with truly malicious intentions. Although they claim to support a free press, that press is often owned by those in power, and/or key information is only given to publications that show loyalty. Although lib-dems claim to support universal suffrage, there are often stark differences in who is allowed to vote (e.g. wait times at polls, distance needed to reach a polling place, time taken to gain citizenship).

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d4rk wrote

Rationalist-Modernists in praxis basically. If they can chalk up to logic, they think it's true.

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existential1 wrote

I watched someone get turned away at the border into Canada from the US because a woman had a DUI like 12 years before. Straight up said yes to the dad and two kids, but nah to the mom. They said she had to hop on a plane and fly to their destination. States man, states.

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NoPotatoes wrote

What do y'all do on Friday nights? I am just eating trash and watching the tube. Playing solitaire. Feel like I'm missing out on something.

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unvaccinatedcomedian wrote

just checked with the few individuals i know and they are doing just about the same thing as you so don't sweat it

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Vecna101 wrote

I go up to a game store. Play some games.

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NoPotatoes wrote

Like a board game store? What kind of games do you like? I usually play Catan, Ticket to Ride, or Monopoly... All fairly imperialist or capitalist, but hey.

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NoPotatoes wrote

I appreciated the rant. Wish I could go to the beach on a wednesday morning. Work sucks.

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