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mofongo OP wrote

Our gringo overlords demanded we start working on weekends the same week our local overlords demanded obligatory overtime. Coordination fell on me. That continues to be very stressful.


I wanted to write more, but I'm sleepy and missing sleep, so bye!

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Ennui wrote

Ancient Greek philosophy (as taught in schools) is the brand name retail bookstore of philosophy. It’s a narcissistic history lesson to introduce you to an equally self-ingratiated field of philosophical ‘research’. It’s the student of philosophy’s first test of obedience. And, for the most part, it can be entirely overlooked.

Fuck you Aristotle.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

iirc Plato's Republic has an entire section devoted to how the elite should rig a marriage lottery and then take multiple wives while the poorer classes do not get to reproduce.

it's like an incel bible.

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Hibiscus_Syrup wrote

Ironically though still one of the best philosophy texts I've ever read. Sadly most people don't seem to get to learn what's cool about Plato's work when they're introduced to it, usually is some half-baked first or second year course.

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Ennui wrote

One of my professors claims that the translation to “Republic” is entirely wrong, and that that text has nothing to do with politics.

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Hibiscus_Syrup wrote (edited )

Newer translations are substantially better, I've been told, but I think it does have to do with politics. That said, the politics element merely emerges as a thought experiment from a question of how we create our subjectivities (our psyche) and structure our desires to live the most desirable life. The metaphor of the way that a republic should be constituted is introduced as a way to explain how we should constitute ourselves. So it's definitely at the least first about how we constitute ourselves as individuals, and delving into the idea of how that relates to potential constitutions of city-states.

But in much of Plato's work, most key claims made get directly undermined within the same dialogue, the others in others. What we regularly see in simplistic first/second year takes, like the focuses on arguments made; reducing dialogue between mutiple characters with specific personalities to point-form sets of claims and conclusions, or the assuming that the character of Socrates is a mouthpiece for Plato's views, totally undermines what for me is what's really good about Plato - the literary and dramatic techniques that at every point undermine my confidence in my own 'knowledge', that brings me to seek out better and better answers to questions while accepting that there is no arriving at any answers, because that journey provides the conditions for the most desirable way to live. From straight up lies, myths, complex forms of irony that have you oscillating between multiple interpretations in constant flux such that you never arrive at an answer but always seek, to imagery that breaks from the orthodox to undermine itself and what came before.
For me what Plato actually believed is largely irrelevant, his work sets out always to destroy our confidence that we know and to get us to seek better information, by building subject-making directly into his work, and I think that's super interesting and unparalleled in any of the philosophy I've read (which is a very limited amount).

There's more cool stuff written about Meno than Republic to make these things clear, but once you're familiar with it you see it everywhere in his work. I had a decent-sized Plato phase many years ago, without which I wouldn't have eventually become an anarchist.

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_caspar_ wrote

more Heraclitus and Diogenes less Plato and Aristotle

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Ennui wrote

Is Heraclitus actually worth reading?

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Hibiscus_Syrup wrote

can winter end already?

frowns in Southern Hemisphere

I am not looking forward to another covid winter.

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Basil wrote

I'm really glad my school is at least partially in person. I don't know how I'd overcome the loneliness without seeing other people. I'm still feeling kinda lonely, but I think that's more being touch starved than not having friends or anything. I could still use a hug, but at least I'm better off than a lot of people.

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86944 wrote

I'm getting new neighbors. I met one of them when the guy stopped in to borrow a snow shovel. The rest of his family is coming up from south carolina later.

I've started making brine with old ice melt to deice my sidewalk. works pretty good and I don't have to use as much salt.

I figured out how to make rice in a stove top pressure cooker. Equal amounts rice and water plus half a cup of water, cook at pressure for three minutes then remove from heat and let depressurize. I was way over complicating it.

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Ennui wrote

Fun fact: I only recently learned that you’re supposed to season rice while it’s still in water. I always did it after and had sad, inconsistent rice.

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StrongerThanEvil wrote

I usually add a leaf or two of laurel (or bay?) leaves from my garden, I'm not sure how it's called exacly in english. And then remove them when the rice is cooked, just to add flavour.

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snuggus wrote (edited )

This pandemic has hit me hard, but what's even harder is watching my friends in worse job situations (or, no job at all) struggle. And the infighting resulting from those voicing anti-work opinions while living with folks and those who have to work essential jobs to survive and can't move back in with parents. I want to support them all but all I can feasibly offer is buying food and giving them my place to crash. It's rough all around. Silver lining, this pandemic has pushed them ever more anticapitalist.

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NoPotatoes wrote

Why would people up top look at capitalism with anything but appreciation?

Because they see where it is trending and how it will end. They know it is time to quickly put an end to the practice of capital ism.

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Ant wrote

How many of you all are using surgical masks or better instead of cloth masks?

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