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train wrote

Replace immediate with continual and I think you would be closer to the mark.

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Grace OP wrote

how strange, because when I used to own the GenZanarchist discord i saw almost everyone wanted immediate state abolition

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train wrote

I can't speak for those anarchists but I can speak to the ones I've talked to. For them it seems like anarchism is a process not really an exact state of affairs. Ie anarchy (as you might imagine being equivalent to communism) doesn't really exist. Thus if you hear an anarchist advocating for anarchy now, they don't mean they expect utopia simply from the abolition of the capitalist state.

Rather the aim of anarchism is to continually unmake hierarchy and in that process the state is abolished. I also don't think anarchists believe the state is the be all end all of exploitive relationships. Nor do I think they are ignorant of the reactionary forces that will attempt to counter insurrectionary tactics.

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ziq wrote (edited )

People who think in absolutes are misguided. But you do the same thing when you say "when the revolution comes". Revolution is a constant process to unmake the authoritarian institutions that control us, it's not something that will just happen one day and everything will be fixed.

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